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Originally posted by Angelic Resurrection
Lol. So now some independent sources have acheived transmutation of elements thru cavitation
and I had acheived this feat 2 years ago.
Originally posted by hypervalentiodine
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection
It's a PDF file of a paper written by Cardone, et al. Could you provide a link to what you're talking about?edit on 3-4-2012 by hypervalentiodine because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Angelic Resurrection
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection
Thanks.
Try googling cavitation transmutations, quite a few sites there
We show that cavitation of a solution of thorium-228 in water induces its transformation at a rate 104 times faster than the natural radioactive decay would do.
In view of the body of knowledge in nuclear physics that has been collected over the past 100 years, this claim is extraordinary and would have rather exciting consequences for the whole field of nuclear physics and its applications. Such an extraordinary claim should, however, be substantiated by extraordinary evidence. We find that such evidence is missing in this paper and it even seems that methodological mistakes have been made.
Since we should, nevertheless, stay open to honest new and potentially revolutionary discoveries, we suggest additional test that the authors can do in order to test their claim.
progressive accumulation of thorium on available surfaces, such as inner walls of the glass container, or the cavitator.
If this were to happen then the solution removed from the vessel, after the treatment, would indeed be less concentrated than the solution before the treatment.
In short, piezonuclear reactions are nuclear reactions (of a new kind) induced in liquids by ultrasound cavitation [3], [4], [5], [6], [7] and [8] and in solids by mechanical pressing and consequent brittle failure [9]. Such processes give rise to transformations of elements [3], [4] and [5] and to emission of neutrons [7], [9] and [15], without significant emission of gamma radiation. Moreover, piezonuclear reactions are characterized by a marked threshold behaviour in the supplied energy, and occur in stable elements. Therefore, they do not belong to the research stream aimed at inducing usual nuclear reactions in unstable elements or deuterated compounds [16], [17], [18] and [19] by means of pressure waves (in particular ultrasounds and cavitation), but constitute new phenomena involving the nucleus. A possible theoretical interpretation of such new processes and of their features (in terms of a spacetime deformation) has been given in Refs. [6] and [8].
In a previous Comment [4] we outlined some of the findings from our investigation of the material presented in [1] and put forward a few suggestions to improve the work. In a Reply [5] to our Comment, Cardone et al. address some but not the most important points raised by us. In fact, instead of clarifying the situation, the Reply by Cardone et al. raises further, very severe questions about the experimental work and data analysis methods used.
To summarize, we have shown that the claim by Cardone et al. of accelerated (and since the Reply even gamma-less) “transfor- mation” of thorium due to cavitation is not substantiated by the experimental evidence presented. We have also shown that the ex- perimental procedures and the treatment of data are below the standards normally accepted by the physics community. Further- more, we have even discovered serious errors and shortcomings in the presented data. Under these circumstances we must conclude that the claims made in papers [1] and [5] should be considered as mere speculation on the part of the authors.
Originally posted by Angelic Resurrection
reply to post by hypervalentiodine
Nice to know that you are a chemist. I still have a smaple of the water and a piece of steel and I can
send it to you to perform your own tests. The only hitch is that I am at work and currently in Iran.
But you may team up with me if you like
Originally posted by Blarneystoner
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection
I don't believe you... hardy har har....
Originally posted by Angelic Resurrection
reply to post by hypervalentiodine
Nice to know that you are a chemist. I still have a smaple of the water and a piece of steel
Originally posted by Angelic Resurrection
reply to post by hypervalentiodine
Its not like 2 or more chemicals reacting.
Its nuclear restructuring
Originally posted by Angelic Resurrection
reply to post by mainidh
Lol, I like your sense of humour. Welcome to the thread.
Googlings galore, nvm, there are all sorts of armchair wikipedia/internet scientists
and chemists on the ats.
Energy is of little consequence, if you manage to tap into the ZPE.
Originally posted by Blarneystoner
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... was messin around and just happened to tap into ZPE eh? I suppose that was googled as well.