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What ever happened with the Polish plane crash/assassinations in Russia from last year? Video

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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 10:05 AM
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Seems like it just dropped off of everyone's radar



Was there ever any kind of official ruling in any regards about what happened/what was filmed?
Has the translated transcript of the video been verified/authenticated?
Any charges pressed against anyone ever?
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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 10:20 AM
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There is much information on the cause of the tragedy which resulted in the death of the Lech Kaczyński, the Polish President and many others in April 2010. Like all disasters such as this there are people who think it was an assassination or some nefarious plot to push this or that agenda. However, I think that these are just fantasy and the incident was not a planned or contrived event. It was an accident.

The results of the investigation are well documented. As usual, Wikipedia has a decent summary and although there may be some debate over the detail, I don’t think there is dispute around the main findings.

Wikipedia summary of the crash

Regards



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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Well, deceased Polish president Lech Kaczynski was anti-euro dollar. His successor Bronisław Komorowski is not, he wants to adopt the Euro as Poland's official currency within the next 3-5 years. I feel Lech was assassinated, and if you want to "follow the money" to see why, it all leads toward a global currency situation. Oh, not to mention Lech didn't want to make a 100 billion dollar gas deal with Russia's corporation Gazprom that would make Poland rely dependent on Russian gas for nearly 30 years - especially after he was informed that scientists had discovered that April that Poland has an abundance of the stuff in it's own land!

The videographer, Adrij Mendiere, was assassinated as well - right after he released this video. Fancy that.
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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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Star and Flag for you my friend.

Yeah it totally went off the radar, if you want a prime example how to brush something under the carpet this would be it, it literally dissapeared.

I remember there were people saying that there were gunshots heard, the survivors were apparently being killed off. It is also a bit suspect how the guy who filmed it "mysteriously" died afterwards.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Wikipedia: LINK

Polish comments on the draft of the final report

On the same day that the final report was published by MAK, Poland published its comments on the draft of the final report[14] sent to MAK before. Poland states that their comments were not taken into consideration. MAK did not include them in the report, but published this document on its website among other appendixes.[15] Poland also published a final version of MAK report with changes performed by MAK in reaction for Polish comments highlighted (red color means changes of text, blue means text addition).[81]

Main points of Polish comments:[14]

* A list of documents, evidence, and other information requested by Poland but not received from the Russian side (First table in document "LISTA WYSTAPIEN STRONY POLSKIEJ O DOKUMENTACJE"/List of requests from Poland about documentation. Entry "Nie otrzymano" means "Not received").[14] Sample of them: Standards of certification for usage of military airports on the Russian Federation territory, Instructions for flights in Smolensk area.

* Poland notes that according to international agreement between Poland and Russia from 1993 PLF 101 was classified in Poland as a military plane and should be treated as performing a military operation also on territory of Russian Federation, especially in non-classified airspace and during approaching a military airport, without ICAO certification. In military operation ATC can give order to crew about landing decision in opposite to civilian flight when ATC gives only recommendation, but final decision about landing is pilots' responsibility.[14]

* Information that result of analysis of CVR (Cockpit Voice Recorder), performed by Polish Commission for the Investigation of National Aviation Accidents, says that first officer gives command "go around" at 100m altitude[14][17][18] This analysis has been ignored by MAK's final report.[1]

* Request for document confirmation that Commander of the Landing Zone was allowed to work in bad weather conditions. Documents confirm only admission for work at day and night in normal weather conditions. Poland notices also that Commander of the Landing Zone had never before worked at Smolensk and in last 12 months performed this function only 7 times. All that information is in his testimony. There is no documentation which certificate Commander of the Landing Zone on Smolensk airport which is required by Russian Law.[14]

* Polish position that ATC gives wrong information for PLF 101 ("on course, on glide slope") and "Level 101" was given too late.[14] According to Final Report at this moment plane was up to 15–20 meters above runway level and 1400 meters before runway begins.[1]

* Differences in approach card described by Final Report and approach card received by Poland before 10 April 2010 with information that Russia sent documents without information about reference system of coordinates in document. Poland assumed that coordinates are expressed using WGS-84 which is world wide standard. Current standard for reference system used in Russia (according to its own law regulation) is PZ-90 which differ from WGS-84 by less than 40 cm (16 in) in any given direction.[14]

* Doubts about Smolensk compliance with Russian regulations because there were trees and other obstacles in an area 300 to 900m long before the runway. The heights of these obstacles are 15m higher than allowed (according to both Russian and ICAO regulations). After the accident, trees in this area were cut.[14] The structure of flight PLF 101 began to be destroyed in that area.[1]

* Polish explanation that there is no requirement in Military aviation for aircraft to have insurance (PLF 101 was owned and maintained by the Polish Military) and even civil regulations allows other financial protections besides insurance. In the case of PLF 101, the Polish National Treasury was financially responsible for the aircraft.[14]

* Polish explanation that, according to Polish law, Certificate of Airworthiness is required for civilian planes and is not obligatory for military machines — instead of this certificate, Polish military planes have to accomplish conditions regulated by "Instrukcja służby inżynieryjno-lotniczej Lotnictwa Sił Zbrojnych RP" (Instruction for engineering and aviation service of Aviation Forces in Republic of Poland). Poland also provides list of documents that confirm plane compliance with that document.[14]

* Information that Polish side had not received documentation of control flight over Smolensk nor documentation of RSP-6m2 radar system used in ATC.[14]

* Doubts about reliability of protocol after control flight which confirmed that light system (LUCZ-2MU) is working properly on Smolensk when MAK Final Report says it did not. Polish specialists were not allowed to be present during control flight.[14]

* Doubts about proper work of radar display according to protocol from control flight.[14]

* Request for source data to marker location on radar display described in Final Report. Information provided to Poland says that camera recorder in ATC was corrupted and there is no information about any other source data.[14]

* Request for information about 13 recorders mounted in ATC, and data recorded (even corrupted) for analysis. MAK states that camera, voice recorders and photo laboratory not worked properly and a lot of information was not saved.[14]

* Information that FCOM of TU-154M in fact does not prescribe using the autopilot during non-precision approach, however this is also not forbidden.[14]

* Expressed lack of any document that confirms PLF 101's status under Russian law.[14]

* Request for source data and method of calculation of PLF 101's weight. Poland says that original documentation about loading and weight measure was destroyed.[14]

* Allegations that documents certifying the medical examination of air controllers had manual corrections and are inconsistent with their testimonies where they confirmed that medical point was closed on 10 April 2010.[14]

* Correction of number of specialists - with list of their certifications - that performed technical support on PLF 101[14]

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