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Canada - The newest terrorist and drug threat to the United States

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posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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This is the United States' forgotten border, where federal agents and police play cat-and-mouse with smugglers and illegal immigrants along 4,000 miles of a mostly unmarked and unfortified frontier with Canada. Unlike the southern border with Mexico, where drug-related violence has exploded in recent years, the northern border rarely makes headlines.



That changed this month after the U.S. Government Accountability Office released a report warning that the terrorist threat from Canada was higher than from Mexico because of the vast swaths of unprotected frontier. Just 32 miles of the 4,000-mile border have an acceptable level of Border Patrol security, with agents available to make on-site arrests, the report said.



Senators from northern border states urged the Obama administration to deploy military radar and more unmanned planes. The head of the Senate's Homeland Security committee, Conn. Sen. Joe Lieberman, suggested the government should examine whether to require visas of Canadian visitors.


Seriously? The Canadian border is the new hot-spot nowdays? Is the US running out of enemies or something? Seriously.....this was on the front page of my news today......

The article says that the DHS has tripled the amount of agents working on the northern border in recent years and is building a $30 million dollar intelligence gathering facility in Michigan.......Apparently we now need military radar and UAV's to stop those pesky Canadians......

Oh my GOSH!!!! I never knew they are this much of a threat to us!!! Maybe we should build a fence up there to! Or how about we just deploy a bunch of tanks across the border?!?!?.... (sarcasm)

The article does offer some reasonable stuff thankfully.....


"There are more drugs on Wall Street than here," said Jonathan Maracle, 35, who owns a gift shop on the 12,000-member Akwesasne Mohawk reservation, straddling New York and Canada on both sides of the St. Lawrence River. "All they're trying to do is make us look bad up here because they can't control up here. The United States government is nothing but bullies."


That and I can also agree on this to.


"Yes, 'terrorists' come thru Akwesasne. They are N.Y.S.P. (state police), Border Patrol, ATF, FBI, etc., etc.!"


Well thats the good stuff from the article... now heres a bit more bad stuff.


U.S. Border Patrol agents rarely go onto the territory without a tribal police escort, said Wade Laughman, agent in charge at the Massena Border Patrol.



"You get a lot of intimidation techniques: blocking in of your vehicles, people yelling at you, screaming at you, guys surrounding you," Laughman said. "It's not safe for one agent to go down there by himself."


OH MY GOSH!!!! This is anarchy land!!! I can only imagine the fear the officers feel when somebody yells at them.......not like it has ever happend to anyone else before......ummm.....what? I lost track because I couldnt stop laughing.


Opposition politicians in Canada have accused Harper, the prime minister, of buying into U.S. paranoia with the new border security agreement.


Wow, the US is paranoid? I had no idea.....
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posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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um, Mexico, anyone?


How about working the Mexico-U.S. border first? If you succeed, THEN worry about Canada-U.S. border. I guess Canadians aren't scared and paranoid enough.
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posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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Thanks for the story and the laugh buni! The one part that is not so laughable is that part about Harper as he is basically the States lapdog and is changing Canada for the worse.

SnF

Peace & Respect

AS



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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Sounds like the PTB are showing all the signs of classic paranioa .



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:48 PM
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How about we realize that clawing at your face and screaming about the borders is a wasted exercise that does nothing more than blow money?

There will always be a "terrorist threat" from somewhere - In fact, most of the time in the US, it comes from white Christians living within the US, rather than any brown furriner coming over a border. The 9/11 Hijackers showed us that someome with evil intent can come here perfectly legally and remain undetected.

Freaking out over it is wasted effort.

We need real immigration reform. Not a Great Wall of Sasketchewan. The US needs to accept free movement of people as well as freedom of personal substance use. These two things would cure so many problems on the borders.



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:48 PM
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I have no idea what the US government is trying to do. Wouldnt those extra agents sent up to Canada, be better off at the southern border?

Someone correct me if Im wrong here, but hasnt there been around 30,000 people killed in Mexico because of the drug war since 2006ish? Plus, are there not heavily armed gangs running around shooting people down there? And another plus, dosent some of this happen right on the border cities?

I guess tripling the amount of agents on the Canadian border will fix that problem........

It makes sense if you dont think about it......at all.......

Wheres the crazy Canadian gangs weilding AK's and RPG's shooting random people, killing tens of thousands?



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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I havent been up to date on Canadian politics lately, but Im getting the feeling this Harper character isnt really that popular up there. I really hope the Canadians dont buy into the US propaganda.



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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I've just had a really nasty thought . What if the extra border security has been sent to Canada , not to keep people out , but to keep its people in .

I hope that something isn't about to go down in the US



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by buni11687

The article says that the DHS has tripled the amount of agents working on the northern border...



so there are 12 guys now patrolling the border. there are so many porous areas that you can literally walk into the united states and hop on a greyhound.

there are border towns near the midwest states and provinces were you can just cross a 2 lane country access road and you're in the u.s. the only security is a sign post that says welcome to the u.s., if that.

or an unmanned booth that hasn't had a border agent in it for 25 years.

not to mention the great lakes, were a 25 hp evinrude and a fishfinder can get you to unmanned public boat ramp on the u.s. coast. in 30 minutes, and you can enjoy a day of fishing to boot.

canada is the u.s. biggest trading partner, it would cost literally trillions of dollars to seal the border.

companies would go out of business in hours, banks will lose billions of dollars on credit defaults, it would be an economic disaster.



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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lol. I think the US is getting out of hand here, Canada's drug crimes aren't even close to what Mexico has become. Last I heard in the news about drugs and crime in Canada is someone got their plants stolen haha



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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Thank you OP. S&F for you.

I never imagined the day when Americans would look a little ole Canada and scream "AHHH! TERRORISTS!"



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by randomname

Originally posted by buni11687

The article says that the DHS has tripled the amount of agents working on the northern border...



canada is the u.s. biggest trading partner, it would cost literally trillions of dollars to seal the border.

companies would go out of business in hours, banks will lose billions of dollars on credit defaults, it would be an economic disaster.





There already has been a little bit of an effect on the economy (atleast the US side.)

From the OP article -


In Waddington, N.Y., 20 miles west of Massena on the St. Lawrence River, visitors used to boat over from Canada to shop at the IGA or sip a beer at one of the four bars near the waterfront, said resident Herb Champion.



The trips were technically illegal, but no one cared, he said. But in recent years federal agents have been stopping boats and even coming into bars to check IDs, he said. Three of the bars have closed for lack of customers.


The Feds want to keep us safe....and end up leading businesses(US) to close down.....I guess thats what the US government is good at these days.



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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Hi all, we live right on the US/CAN border here on the Canadian side fairly close to Detroit.
We used to travel to Michigan all the time for shopping, entertainment, and dining.
The last time we went "over the border" was 19 years ago now. Why you ask and I am glad you did ask too! LOL
Military style custom's with armed guards and dogs.
This was 19 years ago, hell now if they don't like your face you get thrown in a prison with no phone call or Lawyer................ever if they want to deny you they will, its the law in the States now.
Funny thing is here in our local paper the stores and mall's are just begging for Canadian shoppers in their ads but I know of very few people who want to risk their freedom for a discounted turkey.

If you want a Laugh check out this link www.nathancolquhoun.com...

and this one too....cnews.canoe.ca...


Just Google "Moon the Balloon Sarnia"
Pathetic stuff this is.......
Regards. Iwinder
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posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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Just to prove this was actually on the front page of the news, here a screenshot I took.

(not sure how to have the entire picture in there, but I tried)

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/0768ffcb6763.jpg[/atsimg]
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posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by buni11687
reply to post by AeonStorm
 


I havent been up to date on Canadian politics lately, but Im getting the feeling this Harper character isnt really that popular up there. I really hope the Canadians dont buy into the US propaganda.


There are many people here who want Harper gone that is for sure. I can't say that Canadians are necessarily falling for U.S. propaganda but the FEAR factor has definitely been ramped up by our own MSM over the years . The stories are sually crime and criminal activity related but there is the odd story about terrorists here. News stories really gets to people and I just don't understand it. It's like many people are scared of one another.


AS



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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/shakes fist at the wind and screams,
"Dern you cannucks and your delicious maple syrup, superior hockey skills, better beer than that made in the US, and worst of all....Bill Shatner!!!! dern you cannucks for having all of the good stuff!
But now they are terrorists??
I just cannot picture bob and doug with a bomb vest, they sure would however really "Take Off ehh".



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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Hi all,

Remember, us Cdns are a simple people. Always willing to help others and we have no need to carry Guns and stuff. Sure, we seem to have some Governmental troubles, and our Manufacturing first went south (1996), then went east Rice producers. Seems it may never come back.

Harper has to be at most, a minority Gov. He slacking too much into USA Gov views and, I'm concerned he's quite on the table in slacking Cdn rights on the Internet. Stuff like that.

Decoy



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 06:26 PM
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Military style custom's with armed guards and dogs.

In case your not aware, HM Canadian Customs has K9 dogs as well, and all officers working at ports of entry have been armed since 2006.



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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The US, Canada and Mexico should form an alliance. We would make the perfect team...



posted on Feb, 14 2011 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisF231


Military style custom's with armed guards and dogs.

In case your not aware, HM Canadian Customs has K9 dogs as well, and all officers working at ports of entry have been armed since 2006.


Now yes, but take your time and re-read my post ......I am talking 19 bloody years ago with a friendly border........

Look up at the above posts and you might happen to notice a few mentions of somebody named Harper....

No insult intended .
Regards, Iwinder



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