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Originally posted by aptness
reply to post by UluaHuntah808
Are you going to debate and defend your argument or you’re just here to promote some website and your cause? I would like to see, at least, some of the questions posed answered.
Let’s start with an easy one: What’s the source for your OP?
Originally posted by UluaHuntah808
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by shoeshine
So you want your country to be a dictatorship, under one-party rule. Noted.
It was a constitutional monarchy when it was illegally occupied.
Originally posted by youdidntseeme
Originally posted by UluaHuntah808
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by shoeshine
So you want your country to be a dictatorship, under one-party rule. Noted.
It was a constitutional monarchy when it was illegally occupied.
Lets look at a little other Hawaiian history.
As early as 1919, delegates from Hawaii travelled to Congress to petition for statehood.
Finally in 1959 it was approved by Congress, and then was voted on by the Hawaiian citizens and overwhelmingly passed.
The state of Hawaii celebrates Statehood Day on the third friday of August every year as a state holiday to celebrate this fact.
Which part of this subscribes to the idea that Hawaii is not a state of the union?
Statehood wasnt forced upon the Hawaiian people, in fact it was asked of by the Hawaiian people.
If the citizens of Hawaii had not petitioned for statehood, it probably would not be a state today.
Originally posted by youdidntseeme
Originally posted by UluaHuntah808
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by shoeshine
So you want your country to be a dictatorship, under one-party rule. Noted.
It was a constitutional monarchy when it was illegally occupied.
Lets look at a little other Hawaiian history.
As early as 1919, delegates from Hawaii travelled to Congress to petition for statehood.
Finally in 1959 it was approved by Congress, and then was voted on by the Hawaiian citizens and overwhelmingly passed.
The state of Hawaii celebrates Statehood Day on the third friday of August every year as a state holiday to celebrate this fact.
Which part of this subscribes to the idea that Hawaii is not a state of the union?
Statehood wasnt forced upon the Hawaiian people, in fact it was asked of by the Hawaiian people.
If the citizens of Hawaii had not petitioned for statehood, it probably would not be a state today.
Originally posted by UluaHuntah808
Did Hawaiian Kingdom subjects vote for statehood? Or did US citizens vote for statehood? Right cannot arise out of injury.
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by UluaHuntah808
Ok, so you are talking about Hawaii. I thought the comment about Democrats destroying the country referred the the US. A Republican signed the act that made Hawaii a state.
Originally posted by shoeshine
reply to post by Sinnthia
the dems are destroying this place
Originally posted by youdidntseeme
Originally posted by UluaHuntah808
Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by shoeshine
So you want your country to be a dictatorship, under one-party rule. Noted.
It was a constitutional monarchy when it was illegally occupied.
Lets look at a little other Hawaiian history.
As early as 1919, delegates from Hawaii travelled to Congress to petition for statehood.
Finally in 1959 it was approved by Congress, and then was voted on by the Hawaiian citizens and overwhelmingly passed.
The state of Hawaii celebrates Statehood Day on the third friday of August every year as a state holiday to celebrate this fact.
Which part of this subscribes to the idea that Hawaii is not a state of the union?
Statehood wasnt forced upon the Hawaiian people, in fact it was asked of by the Hawaiian people.
If the citizens of Hawaii had not petitioned for statehood, it probably would not be a state today.
Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne
And where is your history coming from?
There are a lot of things that are written into history books that are either incorrect, or in some cases, completely omitted. It's just like the news... if you want to know what's really going on, you get the news from another country, not your own, because you'll never get the true story thanks to the art of propaganda. You don't think that extends into books and reading materials? I think the OP is showing quite a bit of credibility and most here are quick to jump on the patriotic bandwagon...
I mean, it's not like the people in this country have ever taken someone else's land before...
~Namaste
Originally posted by Shadowfoot
reply to post by UluaHuntah808
I am not Hawaiin but I agree with you and support the people cause. They were forced into statehood like many territories by greedy industrialists and land grabbers.
Where would you like my history to come from?
A book?
A newspaper?
A blog?
What source would be acceptable in this case?
Originally posted by youdidntseeme
Originally posted by UluaHuntah808
Did Hawaiian Kingdom subjects vote for statehood? Or did US citizens vote for statehood? Right cannot arise out of injury.
No US Citizens did not vote for statehood, they did not become citizens until after the voted for statehood.
But that should not be the issue.
The Hawaiian people voted for statehood, no matter how you classify them.
Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
Are you certain of that? I would have assumed Hawaii was a US territory and its residents were US citizens before it was granted statehood, much in the same manner as Puerto Rico and other US territories' residents.
Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
Originally posted by youdidntseeme
Originally posted by UluaHuntah808
Did Hawaiian Kingdom subjects vote for statehood? Or did US citizens vote for statehood? Right cannot arise out of injury.
No US Citizens did not vote for statehood, they did not become citizens until after the voted for statehood.
But that should not be the issue.
The Hawaiian people voted for statehood, no matter how you classify them.
Are you certain of that? I would have assumed Hawaii was a US territory and its residents were US citizens before it was granted statehood, much in the same manner as Puerto Rico and other US territories' residents.
A person born in Hawaii on or after August 12, 1898, and before April 30, 1900, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900.