Occult Owl Makes Starbucks Appearance?

Originally posted by DamaSan
Well, once everyone decides on the true esoteric meaning of this symbol, let's postulate on what it has to do with Star Bucks and why they would put it on their cups (grande only) for the world to see

Hmm, my two cents: Starbuck or White Stag. Most stars are white from our perspective and
stag which is a deer or buck hence Starbuck.

Csodaszarvas (animal) A central figure in the legends surrounding the origin of the Hungarian people. The name translates to "Miraculous Deer". According to Hungarian legend, while out hunting, the brothers Hunor and Magor saw a miraculous white stag. They pursued the animal, but it always stayed ahead of them, leading them westward into Levedia, where they married two princesses and founded the Hun and Magyar peoples.

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Already stated my opinion of the Owl, Horus and Moloch.

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Looks like we're finding some of the same things. Lots of owl themed products from Starbucks...

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
It's a poison chalice!

that Starbucks Stuff will kill ya.

a warning to those who know to take their business elsewhere

no, seriously,
don't drink their crud.
go to a real coffee shop and support small business.

Yep. Starbucks coffee is nasty, right down to their throwaway culture of waste and the complete lack of water conservation, as well as being just plain horrid to drink...flavoured coffee?
Cripes, you guys!

It does look like an interesting image and has parallels to Baphomet.
Go Diana!

Mr D

It is based off Moby Dick and the character Starbuck who was a sailor who loved coffee

from the link on why star bucks chose the original mermaid logo on the last page
though the symbolism of the desirable thing you can continuously chase, like the great white whale
probably does figure into their plan
your post regarding the stag probably was on their minds too...good catch
association is important in mind programming


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yeah Damasan
it is interesting even as a study in how symbolism is used to influence us

instead of a selling a really good responsible quality product
lets use advertising
I've never drank a starbucks

Originally posted by Danbones

I'm going to guess along the lines of the above that reason for this logo
"wisdom" or "knowing" is the connection they want to make

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Thats what Im thinking.. or a lark to make people guess


Dan.. Im not your enemy. I dont like Jones .. so what? I dont care if you do like him but dont expect everyone to walk on eggshells because the guy isnt God. I like and agree with a lot of your feelings.. just not the Jonesing ones.

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That's an angle I've never considered. Sounds good....

I also found this about the reason Starbucks was chosen as the company name:

The name is taken from Moby-Dick; after Pequod was rejected by one of the co-founders, the company was named for the first mate on the Pequod, Starbuck.

Source: Wikipedia.org

Still, nothing about an owl yet...

Originally posted by Advantage

Originally posted by Danbones

I'm going to guess along the lines of the above that reason for this logo
"wisdom" or "knowing" is the connection they want to make

]

Thats what Im thinking.. or a lark to make people guess

hehe lol
good point
the logo is burnt into my brain now

good thing round here (Canada) we have tim hortons
their logo is "role up the rim to win..."
but their product isn't that bad and not nearly so expensive

re jones
I just find a lot of people are playin shoot the messenger
when we have bigger fish to fry
and i think of put downs that aren't backed up are....cheap shots
but I really respect your candor a great deal
thanks

Originally posted by aorAki

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
It's a poison chalice!

that Starbucks Stuff will kill ya.

a warning to those who know to take their business elsewhere

no, seriously,
don't drink their crud.
go to a real coffee shop and support small business.

Yep. Starbucks coffee is nasty, right down to their throwaway culture of waste and the complete lack of water conservation, as well as being just plain horrid to drink...flavoured coffee?
Cripes, you guys!

It does look like an interesting image and has parallels to Baphomet.
Go Diana!

I think you have some things mixed up like alot of things on this thread. One of the
reasons why Starbucks coffee is so expensive is because they pay a honorable
price for the coffee that they purchase. In other words they support the farmers
of coffee beans with a fair price for their resources. (unlike many other's who do not).
and as Diana goes, methinks she has had more than one name in this world eh?

Artemis was one of the most widely venerated of the Ancient Greek deities. Some scholars[who?] believe that the name, and indeed the goddess herself, was originally pre-Greek.[1] Homer refers to her as Artemis Agrotera, Potnia Theron "Artemis of the wildland, Mistress of Animals".[2] In the classical period of Greek mythology, Artemis (Greek: (nominative) Ἄρτεμις, (genitive) Ἀρτέμιδος) was often described as the daughter of Zeus and Leto, and the twin sister of Apollo. She was the Hellenic goddess of the hunt, wild animals, wilderness, childbirth, virginity and young girls, bringing and relieving disease in women; she often was depicted as a huntress carrying a bow and arrows.[3] The deer and the cypress were sacred to her. In later Hellenistic times, she even assumed the ancient role of Eileithyia in aiding childbirth.

Artemis later became identified with Selene,[4] a Titaness who was a Greek moon goddess, sometimes depicted with a crescent moon above her head. She was also identified with the Roman goddess Diana,[5] with the Etruscan goddess Artume, and with the Greek or Carian goddess Hecate.[6]

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Originally posted by Danbones

Mr D

It is based off Moby Dick and the character Starbuck who was a sailor who loved coffee

from the link on why star bucks chose the original mermaid logo on the last page
though the symbolism of the desirable thing you can continuously chase, like the great white whale
probably does figure into their plan
your post regarding the stag probably was on their minds too...good catch
association is important in mind programming


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yeah Damasan
it is interesting even as a study in how symbolism is used to influence us

instead of a selling a really good responsible quality product
lets use advertising
I've never drank a starbucks

edit on 14-12-2010 by Danbones because: (no reason given)

Yes good "Catch" (Pun intended) hehe. Let's not forget Battle "STAR" Galactica and the Character
STARBUCK eh?

en.wikipedia.org...(1978_TV_series)

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yeah i was thinking about him too
In one episode he is thrown into a jail on some planet where not only the prisoners are there but the children born to them are also permanently in jail.
The names were made from the crimes commited like
"John Murder".

Some woman asks him his name
He says "Starbuck"
She askes him:
"What kind of crime is "Starbuckin'?"

funny, I'll bet his name is connected to the stag you mentioned...
writers are taught to use symbols that way
considering howe many episodes I watched and how little I remember of them
I wonder why that sticks out
how long has starbucks been around anyway?

Just wondering if they did any product placement...cause the trend to that really picked up around that time.
Like Superman's adoptive mother washed his super suit in tide in one scene in the first superman movie

Originally posted by aorAki

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
It's a poison chalice!

that Starbucks Stuff will kill ya.

a warning to those who know to take their business elsewhere

no, seriously,
don't drink their crud.
go to a real coffee shop and support small business.

Yep. Starbucks coffee is nasty, right down to their throwaway culture of waste and the complete lack of water conservation, as well as being just plain horrid to drink...flavoured coffee?
Cripes, you guys!

It does look like an interesting image and has parallels to Baphomet.
Go Diana!

Youre damned for eternity for blaspheming the starbucks.

I get a starbucks once a month.. My evil Dr said I cant drink Coffee. I figure if its mostly milk and flavory stuff.. its not REALLY coffee. Real coffee is what my dad drank with chicory in it.... bitter paint thinning sludge. I prefer the sissy stuff. Satanic or not.

Originally posted by Danbones
reply to post by Mr. D

 

yeah i was thinking about him too
In one episode he is thrown into a jail on some planet where not only the prisoners are there but the children born to them are also permanently in jail.
The names were made from the crimes commited like
"John Murder".

Some woman asks him his name
He says "Starbuck"
She askes him:
"What kind of crime is "Starbuckin'?"

funny, I'll bet his name is connected to the stag you mentioned...
writers are taught to use symbols that way
considering howe many episodes I watched and how little I remember of them
I wonder why that sticks out
how long has starbucks been around anyway?

Just wondering if they did any product placement...cause the trend to that really picked up around that time.
Like Superman's adoptive mother washed his super suit in tide in one scene in the first superman movie

edit on 14-12-2010 by Danbones because: (no reason given)

edit on 14-12-2010 by Danbones because: (no reason given)

How long has Starbucks been around? I don't remember . Have you seen the new
version? Starbuck is a woman! Who is Starbuck a man a woman or a stag? It gets
deep for sure.

Well the mermaid / siren logo was the first,
and moby dick was popular up to the early 80s
but new youger customers these days wouldn't know that so much.
Lilith fair though and the rise of the Occult in TV and the movies
probably gives them some good ( bad, lol ) associative symbolism to work with
lots of product placement opportunities so they reemphasized the siren

vigilantcitizen.com...
top 5 most sinister logos
just an aside for fun

Originally posted by Danbones
Well the mermaid / siren logo was the first,
and moby dick was popular up to the early 80s
but new customers these days wouldn't know that so much.
Lilith fair though and the rise of the Occult in TV and the movies
probably gives them some good ( bad, lol ) associative symbolism to work with
lots of product placement oportunities

vigilantcitizen.com...
top 5 most sinister logos
just an aside for fun

A Mermaid with stars around her head which is also symbolic for a halo
in ancient times.

The word is a compound of mere, the Old English word for "sea", and maid, a woman. The male equivalent is a merman.

Much like sirens, mermaids sometimes sing to people and gods and enchant them, distracting them from their work and causing them to walk off the deck or run their ships aground. Other stories depict them squeezing the life out of drowning men while attempting to rescue them. They are also said to carry humans down to their underwater kingdoms. In Hans Christian Andersen's The Little Mermaid, it is said that they forget that humans cannot breathe underwater, while others say they drown men out of spite.[citation needed]

The sirens of Greek mythology are sometimes portrayed in later folklore as mermaid-like; in fact, some languages use the same word for both bird and fish creatures, such as the Maltese word 'sirena'. Other related types of mythical or legendary creatures are water fairies (e.g., various water nymphs) and selkies, animals that can transform themselves from seals to humans.[citation needed]

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Originally posted by Mr. D
Have you seen the new
version? Starbuck is a woman! Who is Starbuck a man a woman or a stag? It gets
deep for sure.

The NAME "Starbucks" comes from First Mate Starbuck, a character in Moby Dick.

The LOGO depicts a Siren - a two tailed mermaid that lures in sailors.


Here's an interesting prespective:

The name also brings up the idea of stardom and big bucks- two very appealing points to consumers. Still digging deeper into the full meaning of Starbucks, you can find a character named Mary Coffin Starbuck (in a novel named In the Heart of the Sea: the Epic True Story which inspired Moby Dick). When dissecting her name, associations to Mary Magdalene, death (coffin), and even sounds like "coffee" are present.

Source:lys-betteronthebeech.blogspot.com

Originally posted by DamaSan

Originally posted by Mr. D
Have you seen the new
version? Starbuck is a woman! Who is Starbuck a man a woman or a stag? It gets
deep for sure.

The NAME "Starbucks" comes from First Mate Starbuck, a character in Moby Dick.

The LOGO depicts a Siren - a two tailed mermaid that lures in sailors.


Here's an interesting prespective:

The name also brings up the idea of stardom and big bucks- two very appealing points to consumers. Still digging deeper into the full meaning of Starbucks, you can find a character named Mary Coffin Starbuck (in a novel named In the Heart of the Sea: the Epic True Story which inspired Moby Dick). When dissecting her name, associations to Mary Magdalene, death (coffin), and even sounds like "coffee" are present.

Source:lys-betteronthebeech.blogspot.com

meh, I've never been one for stardom, I value my privacy more than you will ever realize.
I just need enough "bucks' for my family and I to live comfortably. (and that is relative).
like my signature reads, Knowledge is both good and bad............

Originally posted by DamaSan

Originally posted by Mr. D
Have you seen the new
version? Starbuck is a woman! Who is Starbuck a man a woman or a stag? It gets
deep for sure.

The NAME "Starbucks" comes from First Mate Starbuck, a character in Moby Dick.

The LOGO depicts a Siren - a two tailed mermaid that lures in sailors.


Here's an interesting prespective:

The name also brings up the idea of stardom and big bucks- two very appealing points to consumers. Still digging deeper into the full meaning of Starbucks, you can find a character named Mary Coffin Starbuck (in a novel named In the Heart of the Sea: the Epic True Story which inspired Moby Dick). When dissecting her name, associations to Mary Magdalene, death (coffin), and even sounds like "coffee" are present.

Source:lys-betteronthebeech.blogspot.com

Words almost always have more than one meaning, you would do well to remember that.

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
- bill clinton... he coudn't resist a good siren either
*cough * *cough*
heheh
Coffin
made the hearse horse hoarse

The whole idea with advertizing is to get you to buy something. If a symbol can reach you on a subconscious level it will often make a sale wehn the decision is in the air. They put that on their grande? Costs more, but hey, that owl is telling you it's a wise choice.

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I find it odd that no one has considered why it's called "STAR BUCKS" at all. I wonder this every time I see one.

I mean, seriously, a business name is a HUGE thing. No one comes to their business name flippantly. Unless the owner was a fan of Battlestar Galactica (I doubt it), what is the meaning behind it? I've often pondered if this is a side business venture to fund a privately owned technological/space advances, in which case "Starbucks" would be appropriately named!

Edit: OK, apparently others beat me to the punch! Sorry, didn't have time to read the whole thread and I decided to post.