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Originally posted by catwhoknows
reply to post by oozyism
Now I am jumping up and down and screaming.
They are not Christians.
Jesus is not into killing. And every damn thing that kills calls itself Christian - it is not.
Why can't anyone get this - Christianity is abuse of the name of Jesus - it is His name and it is universally misunderstood. The Christian church as it stands today has nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
Originally posted by oozyism
And your point is that Pakistan cares about human rights
Seriously, do you even know what is going on in Pakistan?
Corruption is heavily spread through out Pakistan, you can literally buy a police station in Pakistan to do your bidding.
You can molest a 2 year old and get away with it in Pakistan, you can kill an innocent Christian, or Muslim and get away with it in Pakistan. You can rape, torture, harass... in Pakistan.
I was there mate. It is nothing new, Pakistan is not a good example when it comes to human rights
Originally posted by Mdv2
Switch your sarcasm sensor on. Pakistan doesn't give a d*mn about human rights, nor does Iran. They just pretend they to but in reality they are as hypocritical as you always tell the West is. They couldn't care less about the Palestinian people and their faith, they just use it to spread hate against Israel, unite their people and distract them from domestic problems with one common enemy.
Are you insinuating that this sentence is a result of corruption? You seriously do everything to persuade people that no one gets killed in the name of Islam. It's either corruption or a criminality, in your opinion.
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by Mdv2
What to say... Countries like Iran and Pakistan support the Palestinian people, right? They supposedly care about humanity and human rights? Guess what, not when it comes to Christians.
Guess what, Pakistan has been for a very long time a U.S. Puppet Govt.
That means that it's the White House that has backed this death sentence not Pakistan.
Knowledge is food for thought so always remember to wisely swallow!
Originally posted by oozyism
Actually the basis of hate towards Christians is US drones killing innocent Pakistanis.
Deuteronomy
Chapter 2
32-37
And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have begun to give Sihon and his land before thee: begin to possess, that thou mayest inherit his land. 32 Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to fight at Jahaz. 33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. 36 From Aroer, which is by the brink of the river of Arnon, and from the city that is by the river, even unto Gilead, there was not one city too strong for us: the LORD our God delivered all unto us
Deuteronomy
Chapter 3
1-7
1 Then we turned, and went up the way to Bashan: and Og the king of Bashan came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Edrei. 2 And the LORD said unto me, Fear him not: for I will deliver him, and all his people, and his land, into thy hand; and thou shalt do unto him as thou didst unto Sihon king of the Amorites, which dwelt at Heshbon. 3 So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people: and we smote him until none was left to him remaining. 4 And we took all his cities at that time, there was not a city which we took not from them, threescore cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. 5 All these cities were fenced with high walls, gates, and bars; beside unwalled towns a great many. 6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. 7 But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities, we took for a prey to ourselves
Deuteronomy
Chapter 7
1-6
1 When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girga#es, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; 2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them: 3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. 4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly. 5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth
Deuteronomy
Chapter 13
6-18
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, 13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; 14 Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; 15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. 16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. 17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and show thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers; 18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the LORD thy God.
Deuteronomy
Chapter 21
18-22
18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. 22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree
Deuteronomy
Chapter 22
25-29
25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbor, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days
Deuteronomy
Chapter 23
1-4
1 He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD. 2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. 3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever: 4 Because they met you not with bread and with water in the way, when ye came forth out of Egypt; and because they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee
Originally posted by oozyism
Christians are regarded as the people of the book and given the utmost respect.
those Muslims who kill innocent people are doing wrong and are going against Islam.
you are getting quite boring copying and pasting stuff from Anti-Islaming Websites:
Yeah, the above verses describes terrorism in the Bible.
Good job.
I can do this all day you know.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
The Qu'ran contradicts itself over and over on this. Christians are NOT given the 'utmost respect', as I've clearly shown. Millions dead or enslaved because they weren't Muslim. It's just that simple and no amount of your spin can change the facts.
Not according to the Imams. According to them, the people who kill and Jihad and help the Jihadists are the real muslims and those that disagree ... or the women who don't wear veils .. or the men who don't beat their women .. etc etc those are all the ones going against Islam.
you are getting quite boring defending the indefendable.
you are getting quite boring not being able to dispute the truth of the facts.
Facts are facts. Truth is truth. Deal with it.
DEFLECTION. (pretty poor attempt!! )
1 - I never said that the bible wasn't a bloody mess. Separate subject.
2 - Christians today DO NOT call for the deaths of others simply because they aren't Christian.
3 - Muslims are stuck in the year 700 .. Christians are not stuck in the years BC.
4 - My ATS thread ripping into Moses
If you are going to blast the old testament for being bloodthirsty, you missed the big fella himself - moses.
Yes, your assimulation into the Islamic cult is complete. It's sad.
But be assured, I can post TRUTH all day as well. So can others.
Your spin will not go unanswered.
I am personally an aetheist, i have no religion. Reading stories like this make me remember why.
Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by andy1972
I am personally an aetheist, i have no religion. Reading stories like this make me remember why.
Maybe you are an Atheist because N-Korea is an Atheist.
You probably love N-Korea right