Islam Should Be Against The Law

Originally posted by kennylee
reply to post by Yeah, sure.

 

I see Christian bashing threads on the boards but I don't see all of you on those threads getting all bent out of shape over it. NO, it's just when you say something about Islam or the Muslims is when people get riled up. Unbelievable....

Then you aren't very aware. There are plenty of people on the boards, myself included that defend anyone against insults and trolling for the sake of trolling. Christians, Jews, Muslims etc.

Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense. You are much to intelligent to employ this one dimensional, black and white style of thinking. Not only are there an infinite number of shades of gray; there is COLOR if one has the desire to see it.

reply to post by infoquest


I'm quite honestly.. Disappointed at some of the responses in this thread to the OPs sentiments.

I think this is evidence of how fragile rights really are.

No, I do not like Islam. This is not the issue here. This never was and never will be a thread about whether Islam is good or bad for the world. This is a thread that is a person expressing a hatred that they would take to reality and use to deny people rights for being part of a certain group.

Despite the common usages of Hitler references, I think here it actually applies. For once. And without any exageration.

In the 1920s-1930s.. Hitler and many other German Politicians (Some of who inspired hitler.) use Jews as a scape goat and blamed them for the worlds problems to gain power in government because others expressed the same feelings. Can anyone tell me that those sentiments are not expressed here but with a different group of people?

Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by infoquest

 

In the 1920s-1930s.. Hitler and many other German Politicians (Some of who inspired hitler.) use Jews as a scape goat and blamed them for the worlds problems to gain power in government because others expressed the same feelings. Can anyone tell me that those sentiments are not expressed here but with a different group of people?

Far as I remember from history, Muslim terrorists did not crash highjacked airplanes into buildings in Berlin. Nor have we Americans marched six million Muslims into gas chamgers.

In fact, might I suggest this video and article"

Muslim Students Association and "Hitler Youth" week (video)
www.examiner.com...

Questions posed by Horowitz regarding Muslim Student Association support for Hamas and Hezbollah were finally answered, with the woman giving an affirmative to her support for these terrorist groups.

its makes me sad to see so many people against what they do not understand , and i just have a simple question ,who are you to dictate what the real answer is ? by this i mean can you tell me with 100percent truth that your view on Islam is real ? is the answer ? that its evil ? that its a colt ? who are you but a little man to say such words ..the truth is neather you nor i know the truth to any of this ,or the truth about life ,so i ask you why speak the truth if you have not the truth your self ? .. truth is no one knows what religion is true or false ,.. but rest assure my good men that the only answer to all things negative and evil in this life ....its simply Love ....

Hey, another way to look at this is to ask Muslims if they believe that we infidels should be outlawed.

In Saudi Arabia it is against the law to have a Christian church or a Synagogue. Nothing is allowed but mosques, by law.

Christianity and Judaism is already outlawed in Muslim countries.

It is not the Islamic Religion per se that the Awakened Ones object to; it is the Sharia Law that piggy backs onto it.
Shariah law is already here: Judge allows spousal rape on Islamic grounds
"The woman was told by her husband every time non-consensual sex took place, "This is according to our religion. You are my wife, I can do anything to you."
www.renewamerica.com...

Sharia, or Islamic law, influences the legal code in most Muslim countries. A movement to allow sharia to set regulations that pertain to marriage, divorce, inheritance, and custody, is now expanding into the United States. All Sharia is derived from two primary sources, the divine revelations set forth in the Qur'an, and the sayings and example set by the Prophet Muhammad in the Sura.
1. Islam commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped. Sura 5:90-91.

2. Islam allows husbands to beat their wives. Qur’an, 4:34

3. Islam allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge, physical eye for physical eye. Qur’an, 5:45

4. Islam commands that a male and female thief must have a hand cut off. Qur’an, 5:38

5. Islam commands that highway robbers should be crucified or mutilated. Qur’an, 5:33. As an alternative, the convicted may have a hand and the opposite foot cut off while being banished from the land instead of crucifixion.

6. Islam commands that Homosexuals be executed. Abdu Dawud no. 447. Burning to death, stoned while against a wall, or stoned and thrown over a cliff.

7. Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death. Qur’an, 24-6

8. Islam orders death for Muslim and possible death for non—Muslim critics of Muhammad and the Quran and even sharia itself.

www.examiner.com...

The above 8 points are Exactly the Points We Awakened Ones are trying to get across to all the Apologists for this Nefarious ideology.

For much more info, including from apologists you can do a shearch for "Sharia law in the US".

reply to post by fredcall


Go back and look at history. I'm not denying that there are muslim terrorists.

Don't be short sided and drop your bias for just a moment as I explain, please.

I don't know why people in the past hated the Jews. But they very clearly did. In America, in Germany, and in many other countries. I think it is very clear that people here, even if they don't widely shout it always, do hate Islam. And there's nothing wrong with hating Islam. There is something wrong when you want to blame them for the worlds problems. And that is what we see here. Hitler used the Jews as a political tool to rally and scare people into his cause, much as many politicians here, even if subtly do today.

No we have not marched six million muslims into gas chambers. But what we see here is blaming Islam for the worlds problems which is how Hitler started. Hitler never said when he was running for office "I want to kill the jews!!!!" He did however express hatred towards them. And then he put them in ghettos, or forced them to leave Germany. And eventually internment camps. And these were the steps towards the final solution.

I can't let any American that has not committed a crime to ever be treated like this for the sole basis that they are a theoretical terrorist. This is a double edged sword that would run straight through our own heart. Not only would we devalue human rights of our own citizens (again, and more severely.) but we would only validate a war against Islam and in doing so we WOULD be the ones responsible for creating more people, in much larger numbers that want to hurt us.

I'm extremely depressed that people starred and flagged this thread.
Everyone has a right to agree with the OP, but it is societies responsibility to condemn this sort of thinking to prevent tragedies.

Imagine if the German population had spoken up for the Jews, the Gypsies, the mentally disabled, the physically disabled, the gays. They wouldn't have had so much damn blood on their hands if they had.

reply to post by OhZone


You know, I've already said I don't like Islam. And half of that reason is for the reasons you have listed in your post here.

But to act as though this is something unique to Islam is ill-informed.

If you want to find out the morallity of your bible, perhaps you should refer to see what it says to do if your virgin daughter is raped.

You will find that the bible is full of the tales of the immoral but it still seems to be presented as a paragon of moral code.

reply to post by OhZone


I've got a novel idea that has worked very well in the past here in America.

Anyone who comes to America, from anywhere, must defend and preserve the Constitution of the United States.

Liberals believe that the Constitution of the United States should be outlawed. I've got suggestions what to do about the liberals who are already here, with citizenships, defaming the Constitution. But I'll keep those suggestions to myself for the nonce.

Sharia Law does not defend the Constitution of the United States. Sharia Law has NO PLACE in American society.

For those socialists/communists who don't believe in the Constitution of the United States.....

No Rules for Radicals
www.youtube.com...

reply to post by Miraj


Miraj, it is not my bible. Christians are not currently practicing what that book says. I don't think that they ever did. They negated most of the O.T. as the N.T. has taken its place.
I do not recall ever reading of Christians or Jews commiting the horrendous acts that have been committed by Islam from its inception to this very day.

There is no comparing Hitler/Jews/Gypsies or anything else to what Sharia Law would mean if it were allowed to take root in the US or any country in Europe. This is not about persecuting Muslims. It is about maintaining the US law and protections of individuals under the Constitution, as we have been given to understand it.

reply to post by fredcall


In Saudi Arabia, yes. In other Muslim countries, even Iran, there are both churches and synagogues.

reply to post by fredcall


Why are you calling the OP a communist?

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by fredcall

 

Why are you calling the OP a communist?

Why are you wrongly claiming that I'm calling the OP a communist?

reply to post by fredcall


Liberals DO NOT believe in outlawing the constitution.

Let me ask you, who spent the past almost 10 years, calling upon the Bush policies as Un-Constitutional?

I'll give you a hint, the republicans commended him for it.

reply to post by InvisibleAlbatross

For those socialists/communists who don't believe in the Constitution of the United States.....

The OP is the one of the few in the thread who wants to disregard the Constitution and ban a religion. According to your quoted post, that makes him a communist.

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by fredcall

 

In Saudi Arabia, yes. In other Muslim countries, even Iran, there are both churches and synagogues.

In Iran, a Christian pastor faces death sentence

2010|By Joe Sterling, CNN
A Christan pastor in Iran has been sentenced to death for allegedly renouncing his Muslim religion and another faces a possible indictment on the same charge of apostasy, according to a prominent activist group working for human rights in Iran.

articles.cnn.com...:WORLD

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by InvisibleAlbatross
[The OP is the one of the few in the thread who wants to disregard the Constitution and ban a religion. According to your quoted post, that makes him a communist.

And next you will quote passages from Stalin's autobiography where Josef gave his interpretation of the Constitution of the United States.

reply to post by OhZone


If you think that christians didn't do terrible things. I think you need to read a different history book.

Also I think you need to read the topic. This is now about Sharia Law, I am not reccomending that there be Sharia in America, and I have yet to read a post in this thread that has.

I am comparing the OPs desire to put Islamic people in Internment camps, solely for the reason that they are muslim to the events that occured in Germany.

Please, read the topic before you post.

Can we please stick to the topic!