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Texans take their rights seriously. A bill that has been prefiled for the 2011 state legislative session creates penalties of up to $5,000 in fines and up to five years in jail for anyone guilty of the "felony" of attempting "to enforce an act, order, law, statute, rule or regulation" of Obamacare, the president's plan that effectively nationalizes the health-care decision making process. The plan by Texas Rep. Leo Berman, R-Tyler, effectively would nullify the federal health care legislation in his state. At least, that is what the bill that "relates to federal health care legislation" says:
The federal Act:
(1) is invalid in this state
(2) is not recognized by this state
(3) is specifically rejected by this state
(4) is null and void and of no effect in this state.
Originally posted by bozzchem
Rather than express my opinions, I'd prefer you spend the time to read the text and realize on your own just how egregious this bill is. en.wikipedia.org...
It reminds me of the PATRIOT act. They always choose an acronym that makes it sound great but once you spend a few days reading the fine print you realize it's nothing more than a means to continue your enslavement.
Take a quick read of the Food Safety Modernization Act and you'll hopefully realize that they choose doublespeak to keep people feeling safe while their liberties are squashed.
Originally posted by SirKnightE
What is wrong with free minimum health care.
From my understanding it would provide health care benefits for those with out it,
and it would possibly make those with health care more efficient, somehow.
Alot of people seem to have a problem with this. What is wrong with free minimum health care.
But, if what Obama proposes passes, they will be able to afford taking care of their health.
Originally posted by Oaktree
reply to post by SirKnightE
From my understanding it would provide health care benefits for those with out it,
and it would possibly make those with health care more efficient, somehow.
"It" being the government and the health insurance companies. The very same who provide health care, FOR A COST, now.
Alot of people seem to have a problem with this. What is wrong with free minimum health care.
There is nothing free about this. It only mandates that all must pay for insurance.
But, if what Obama proposes passes, they will be able to afford taking care of their health.
It did pass, months ago, it is law now.
What you haven't noticed all the changes?
Originally posted by ldyserenity
I see no reason to shoot down all nationalized healthcare, but forcing us to purchase it from criminal insurance companies is the real disaster, when you really need it you will not REPEAT NOT get the healthcare that one has paid for (probably at very high almost criminal rates to begin with). Now if it was nationalized like in Canada that it was handled without the mediator (INS CO'S) then everything would be swell in my opinion. I don't mind paying a little bit of a higher tax to get myself some healthcare but to be charged by an insurance company and probably be denied the care when I need it or worse yet, pay into the damn thing and never need it, then I am furious! And dental is all but a laughable insurance anymore. It's like it's a luxury, no it is NOT if you loose your teeth you cannot eat if you cannot eat you will DIE! Insurance companies are raping our citizens (I don't include auto, because if you choose to drive, you should have it) but one can't choose to not have a physical body (barring suicide).
This is just how I feel about the issue, I commend Texas. I will be using religion to "OPT" out of this catastrophic buddy pocket lining s****pie!!!!
None of this answers my questions, My ignorance on this matter is real, so I seek real answers, none of the sacasm helps AT ALL, so If you're just tryna to make some lame a$$ response to stir up some debate, please dont respond, your stupidity is not needed. This issue is real with plenty of people that do not have insurance, Like my parents and GF. Again all I hear is the same crap I hear off of FOX news, I'm not here for bullsh!t debate, so if there is someone with an ouce of intelligence to answer my simple question please feel free to clarify the benifits or concequences to ObamaCare with reliable sources please.
I would like someone to clarify to me exactly what the prolem is with "ObamCare".
Like I said before, I dont follow politics too much, so if someone could please explain to me the evil behind ObamaCare.
I have said for almost two decades that the healthcare system in the U.S. is wrecked, and I still believe that it needs to be fixed.
I fail to see how this bill changes much.
Look at who Obama, and our other Reps, invited to these closed door meetings to develop this bill.
Insurance companies, pharmaceauticals, unions, etc.
Did anyone ask The People what they wanted?
No, the very criminals responsible for our messed up health care system were the ones invited to write this new legislation.
This bill does not provide free health care for the poor or temporarily down and out.
We will all still be paying for health care.
While I don't believe this bill will actually reduce costs, let's pretend it does.
I have insurance through my wife's employer. We pay roughly $550/mnth.
Even if this bill reduces costs for those struggling by 40%, which is doubtful, how does that really help.
For people that have no health care, and are struggling to pay mortgage (if they still have one), pay bills,
and God forbid, put some decent food on the table,
does it really matter that the policy still costs $300/mnth vs. $550?
If you're broke, you're broke. $550, $300, $1000, the money isn't there, might as well be a million.