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That's a lot sooner than you'll get a report like this from me. If I can't take pictures of it, I ain't tellin nobody about it!
Originally posted by Signals
Why did it take 10 years for us to get a report?
Originally posted by aRogue
Hey Dino, thank you for taking an interest and asking some good questions. Btw your avatar is awesome.
Well, the very appearance of it looked like a planet in the distance. The surface, everything about it suggested so. If you were in my shoes during that event, you would agree in an instant.
It couldn't have been my eyes. I didn't blink. I was staring at the sky for a few seconds prior to the object appearing, and i didn't move before or duing the sighting.
My description of the event has stayed with me ever since it took place. "A dark planet, rivers of fire, dark plumes of smoke" The following is what i've been saying every night before bed so i'd never forget the image and event that took place that night.
I don't trust everything the media says.
Besides what i saw and what the reporter said, didn't match up. Like i said before, a planet & a shooting star are two very different things.
The mind, brain whatever you want to call it is a mysterious thing. It chooses what to remember and how well it remembers it.
I don't expect you to fully understand, but when you experience something like the following. It impacts your very life in such a way... It's unforgettable.
The reason i still remember it's exact appearance is simple. After the encounter, i quickly scribbled down the event and what i saw.
Then locking it away in a safe (don't ask me why, it just felt precious to me).
Plus at a young age, writing a full analysis report and every exact detail is somewhat foreign to me...
By the way. The direction i was facing.... It was Up.
I know what i saw.
The detail over time was written down literally 30mins after the event took place, and i've been reciting what i've seen every night before bed.
It's my word against yours in the end, resulting in a never-ending cycle of arguments and opinions. A perfectly natural process. Something i've learned to accept.
But please, if you could think of what i'm saying as the truth... for just a moment!
How is what i saw possible? What would make it possible? This is what i'm trying to uncover.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
reply to post by aRogue
The reason I asked about heat sources, is they can create atmospheric distortions. And those atmospheric distortions are capable of creating optical effects.
Here's an example of something resulting from a heat source, it could have an appearance larger than the moon and might look more like a planet if viewed underneath it:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f2ca4262314b.jpg[/atsimg]It was also transient in nature but it lasted a little longer than what you described.
However ground based heat sources are only one possibility for the origin of atmospheric distortions/effects. There are some really violent distortions in the atmosphere, especially if a pressure front just moved through the area or if a storm was forming. Anything like that happening at the time? or would you know if a pressure front moved through the area?
These disturbances are so violent they have been known to knock planes out of the sky, so anything along these lines could possibly produce some strange optical effects that might be like you described.
By the way, where did you get your artwork if the object? It reminds me of the evil entity in the movie "The Fifth Element"
Originally posted by pjslug
Could it have been a solar eclipse?
Just a thought.
What does "in the distance" mean? Relative to what? This seems a bit circular. To determine distance intuitively at a glance, you'd have to already have some sense of size, and vice versa, which is why I question your alleged perception.
How does it follow from any of that "It couldn't have been [your] eyes?"
Okay, but that doesn't mean your description is accurate or that anything was even there.
Neither do I, but that's hardly a reason to invoke a conspiracy about this..
It has not been established that you observed a planet, only that you apparently think you did.
It's just strange that you "remember" enough to tell your story and vehemently assert a defense of sorts, but not enough for anyone to analyze your claim conclusively.
When you jump to conclusions like "planet" and hold onto them for so many years, rationalizing them to yourself all the while, I do understand that. You yourself have conceded that the human brain "is a mysterious thing."
In summary, you're confident in your story because you, as a child, wrote a description of the alleged object "[after] the encounter." So you don't really remember the object in that much detail, but you're basing it on what you scribbled down as a child, while assuming the initial perception was accurate in the first place..
See the "It's just strange..." segment above.
In the sky, most everything above the neighborhood of the horizon is "up" to an observer on the surface. Do you mean "straight up," as in your [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenith]zenith
Regardless, you have Ockham's Razor and a host of physical laws at odds with your claim. Planets don't pop in and out of view as you have described. Even if everything you have recounted is 100% accurate in terms of what you experienced that night, "HUGE PLANET SIGHTING" is still a woefully poor explanation for the event. That you saw something and misinterpreted it, or you just imagined something -- much better explanations, given the data at hand.
It is possible that you saw something and misinterpreted it, or you just imagined something. Both of these mundane explanations account for the phenomenon, and they do not require us to invoke magical pop-in planets or a so-called "inter-dimensional sighting" (as someone else suggested).edit on 5-12-2010 by UndeadDinosaur because: correction
Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are
It looks like the "evil planet" from the movie "The Fifth Element":
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9da83d7e55e6.jpg[/atsimg]
Originally posted by aRogue
How does it follow from any of that "It couldn't have been [your] eyes?"
I'm sorry i'm having a bit of difficulty understanding what you're trying to ask here.
Originally posted by aRogue
What i meant by "in the distance" was outside our atmosphere. It could very well have been outside our solar system as well.
But then that would mean this object would be tremendous in size.
The exact size of the object has dwindled in my memory over the years. What i do know though is that it was definitely larger than the moon.
How does it follow from any of that "It couldn't have been [your] eyes?"
I'm sorry i'm having a bit of difficulty understanding what you're trying to ask here.
Based on what i saw, i say it's a good reason entirely to invoke a conspiracy about this.
I wasn't aware of putting up defences in my story,
i'm just telling you how i saw it...
You're free to ask as many questions as you like, i'm glad to answer them all in the best possible way i can.
If i replaced a planet with a plane, would you still think i'd be jumping to conclusions? No would be my answer. Yes the brain is very facinating!
I remember a lot from that night in great detail.
The scribbling down on paper was a mere anchor to what i saw. In other words, whenever i drifted into a sense of doubt, that piece of paper would assert what i saw indeed took place in reality.
No i do not, i'm sorry.
The title was merely to attract attention so people could visit the thread and answer the one question i hoped would be answered, and i thank those who have done so already.
I know the basics of physical laws and off-course i know what i'm saying is utter lunacy. Even i admit that... but i know (and believe) what i saw.
I know it's hard for you to comprehend that.
But hey, that's only natural. Haha, Dino... how much data would it take for you to actually believe my account as truth?
I deal with people like you everyday and no amount will ever convice your type.
It's possible. By the way, is it that difficult for you to answer my question though? If so i understand and respect your decision. Thanks again for the questions.