Thousands march against war in Afghanistan

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Originally posted by phatpackage
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Islamic Extremism. Other people I have shown Oozy's comments to are not to comfortable with him next door as well

Extremism of any form is highly suspect. Be it Isalmic or the bogan ozzy ozzy ozzy oi oi oi oft chanted before the boots are kicked into some poor unsuspecting bearded dude.

It is easy to protest the war from relatively safe and free western nation, it reminds me of those saloon socialists in the west during the cold war, philosophing about the revolution and greatness of socialism while enjoying the fruits and freedom of western capitalism.
What would happen if the coalition forces would immidiatelly withdraw? Taliban will take over and resume its medieval and cruel regime and punish all collaborants that trusted the coalition forces to stay at least till more secular government would be able to stand against the extremists. Should we betray them like that?

Those people protesting the war in Afghanistan are either selfish and cruel (if they want Taliban to rule and terrorize the afghans again) or just stupid (brainwashed by anti-US sentiments because today its popular and cool to disagree with US politics and not thinking about the consequences).

Originally posted by sceptical me
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I am not current on politics down under, merely going on past history! I can't believe oz has been anti Us since the days of Whitlam

I don't think so. Anti -American? Only those who have no family who fought in any wars maybe.
Besides, our NSW Premier, Kristina Keneally was born in Las Vegas ....

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You mean you don't want us to rape Afghanistan of it's resources so we can get out of debt from China? At this point the middle east seems to go further back in time everyday and all they do is blame the west but disregard all technology and don't want to move into democratic times (like most of the civilized world). So in short I'm sorry for Afghanistan but they put themselves in this situation.

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Very well put, I think people wouldn't be worried about protesting if they we're in Afghanistan they'd more likely be running for their lives. Do people not get that American/Allies=dead to the middle east right now? People are ridiculously out of touch.

I think the reason we in the USA are not protesting the war is because it's at least a job. The economy and unemployment is so bad people are simply hunkering down. They have not yet farmed out the army. That may be next. The US gov may end up paying Mexicans to go fight the war in Afghanistan for cheaper wages.

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I, too, remember Vietnam but I was over there during the protests rather than here at home. We Americans do, I think, have a way of insulating ourselves from the rest of the world. Perhaps that is the reason for our social/political laziness. It is also that the forces of evil have caused us to be so very divided against ourselves that we can no longer act as one will in such matters. Too many of us have become sheep with glazed over eyes thinking only of the various "rights" that are being threatened by "socialism". And while we all quibble over this our kids are dying for oil and gas.

I cannot see the future but it seems clear to me that it will be our military dependent families who will have to start the uprising. So many of them survive on food stamps and suffer the mindlessness of blind obedience to those mediocre minds that rule. We have become the Corporate States of America I'm afraid. Now we are ruled by motives for financial profit by the few. Few of us are capable of "seeing" through the fogs of deception that assault us at every turn. One would think that religious voices would be the first to take a stand. Where is Jesus when we need him? He certainly is no longer in Christianity.

Originally posted by NoJoker13
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You mean you don't want us to rape Afghanistan of it's resources so we can get out of debt from China? At this point the middle east seems to go further back in time everyday and all they do is blame the west but disregard all technology and don't want to move into democratic times (like most of the civilized world). So in short I'm sorry for Afghanistan but they put themselves in this situation.

Democracy is not a Universal System, and have been proven to fail over and over again.

By the way..

Hitler came to power through Democracy.



Don't force others to follow your way of life mate.. Or you might get raped just like USSR, infact it was Afghans who raped USSR, and watch your own soldiers falling in daily bases, and billions spent on weekly bases.

Did you know, those resource you are talking about, if you calculate how much it would take to remove them, you will be surprised lol.. That is why so man claim Afghanistan was a setup trap for US, who set the trap, that should be your concern hahahaha

Originally posted by Unknown Origin
I think the reason we in the USA are not protesting the war is because it's at least a job. The economy and unemployment is so bad people are simply hunkering down. They have not yet farmed out the army. That may be next. The US gov may end up paying Mexicans to go fight the war in Afghanistan for cheaper wages.

Don't Americans know who is paying for it>?

How can you pay billions of dollars to a war when you have no money, worse, you have negative number of money

Protests against war always end up with the violent kickin the piss out of the peaceful and until the peaceful start showing up with their own weapons, it will never change.

The US really needs to withdraw the over 200,000 some odd troops from the antiquated wars of the past from this Earth. Do we really need to have 38,000 permeantly stationed troops in the Koreas? Do we really need troops in Germany today? Why do we have troops in Norway?

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Democracy is not a Universal System, and have been proven to fail over and over again. By the way.. Hitler came to power through Democracy. Don't force others to follow your way of life mate..

Maybe not. But afghan people believe it is better than Taliban regime. Dont force others to follow your way of life, mate..

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Originally posted by Maslo


Maybe not. But afghan people believe it is better than Taliban regime. Dont force others to follow your way of life, mate..

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Ohh, so Afghanistan is part of America now>? Why can't Afghans vote on your elections?

I thought the American government was support to take care of its own people, not Afghanistan??

How much money did your government spend on Afghanistan?

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Ohh, so Afghanistan is part of America now>? Why can't Afghans vote on your elections? I thought the American government was support to take care of its own people, not Afghanistan??

By the same logic, allies should have left nazi Germany be. Countries have moral duty to act against criminal governments breaching human rights, if they have the resources to do so.

Originally posted by Maslo


By the same logic, allies should have left nazi Germany be. Countries have moral duty to act against criminal governments breaching human rights, if they have the resources to do so.

No, no, no..

Let's keep this simple, the American government's responsibility is America, that is why it is called the American government.

Afghanistan is in the other side of the world, you have no moral authority to help Afghans, you only have moral authority to help Americans, and maybe to some extent your neighbour.

Afghanistan - No!!

If you think you have any moral authority over Afghanistan, then please let them vote in your elections, and let them be part of your nation, so they can pay tax, and pay back what they have done for you.

Originally posted by Maslo
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Ohh, so Afghanistan is part of America now>? Why can't Afghans vote on your elections? I thought the American government was support to take care of its own people, not Afghanistan??

By the same logic, allies should have left nazi Germany be. Countries have moral duty to act against criminal governments breaching human rights, if they have the resources to do so.

But there are so many other countries who's people are repressed...
Why does America only help the people in countries that are rich in natural resources that they haven't got their hands on yet??

Hmmm, maybe I just answered my own question..