It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

T.S.A. : Birth of A Monster, Coup Against American Rights, F.E.M.A. Started and D.A.R.P.A. Finished

page: 1
204
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join
share:
+106 more 
posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 06:36 PM
link   
Everyone knows that organizations like the Tranportation Security Administration cannot exist without terrible circumstances, but little does it happen to come across many peoples minds to consider an inside plot twist so corrupt, so vile, and so enigmatic that many levels of Government collusion are entwined without those people working for each agency knowing of the actual conspiracy except as something which has been a wet-dream for each of them to make their menial jobs far easier, if not for the citizens rights standing in the way of what they perceive as their job.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Transportation Security Administration

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is an agency of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security responsible for security in all modes of transportation in the U.S.

The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act passed by the U.S. Congress, and signed into law by President George W. Bush on November 19, 2001.

Originally organized in the U.S. Department of Transportation, the TSA was moved to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security on March 25, 2003.


I am of course asking you a few select question which should spark your mind into a wildfire.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/94d8ca4a0f24.jpg[/atsimg]

After the events of September 11, 2001, who in fact had the most to gain, the most to lose, and who exactly profited off of this disaster likened to the events of World War II wherein Pearl Harbor was struck by the Japanese, if we in fact are the people being felt up in the line to go into line to get onto an airplane, if our security has been tightened, yet other countries security is still a joke?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3036b959455c.png[/atsimg]

Like lambs, or in this case, cattle being lead to slaughter, we are ushered into the herd.

Forget for a moment, if you will, the how of the events of the day of 9/11.

And focus instead upon the why of the event, the ultimate question, more easily answered.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e3725bb5c2e3.jpg[/atsimg]

Before you complain, whine, or bitch about the T.S.A. Security Measures, or compare it to the Nazi's, think about a few things instead as to what lead us to this impasse, this Mexican Stand-Off, if you will, through the ignorance of the populace in their materialism focused eyes, their bread and circuses focused hearts, and the lacking of understanding within society as a whole in the leverage being placed upon society thanks to the Security Theater being played out upon the world stage as well as the national stage where we as citizens are the actors, even against our own wills.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Security Theater

"Security theater" is a term that describes security countermeasures intended to provide the feeling of improved security while doing little or nothing to actually improve security.

The term was coined by computer security specialist and writer Bruce Schneier for his book Beyond Fear, but has gained currency in security circles, particularly for describing airport security measures.

It is also used by some experts such as Edward Felten to describe the airport security repercussions due to the September 11 attacks.

Security theater gains importance both by satisfying and exploiting the gap between perceived risk and actual risk.


Before the events of 9/11 our security at the airports was what I would call a sad joke.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/98dba3651624.gif[/atsimg]

Even now it is still what I would classify as a sad joke but not due to negligence.

But due to the reasoning behind the millimeter wave scanners really intend for us.

Not as a security screening measure, but as a blackmail leverage point, for us to accept something else, far more sinister if we want to opt out of being scanned by a scanner potentially linked to cancer, and as well if we want to opt out of being felt up by trained security personnel who do not see their frisking us as the next step towards a total Police State through totalitarianism.

If we balk at being fed up with the invasive procedure we have to comply or be arrested.

If we decry State-Sanctioned Molestation we are fined and told we are at falt.

The real purpose of this through security theater is for the psychodrama which unfolds.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Psychodrama

Psychodrama is a method of psychotherapy in which clients are encouraged to continue and complete their actions through dramatization, role playing and dramatic self-presentation.

Both verbal and non-verbal communications are utilized.

A number of scenes are enacted, depicting, for example memories of specific happenings in the past, unfinished situations, inner dramas, fantasies, dreams, preparations for future risk-taking situations, or unrehearsed expressions of mental states in the here and now.

These scenes either approximate real-life situations or are externalizations of inner mental processes.

If required, other roles may be taken by group members or by inanimate objects.

It is mostly used as a group work method, in which each person in the group can become a therapeutic agent for each other in the group.

Developed by Jacob L. Moreno, psychodrama has strong elements of theater, often conducted on a stage where props can be used.

The audience is fully involved with the dramatic action.

Audience involvement is either through personal interest in the concerns of the leading actor, called the protagonist; or through playing some roles of the drama which helps the protagonist; or taking the form of some of the other elements of the drama, which can give voice to the rest of our wild universe; or through active engagement as an audience member.

Psychodrama's core function is the raising of spontaneity in an adequate and functional manner.

It is through the raising of spontaneity that a system, whether an internal human system or an organizational system, can begin to become creative, life filled and develop new solutions to old and tired problems or adequate solutions to new situations and concerns.

A psychodrama is best conducted and produced by a person trained in the method or learning the method called a psychodrama director.

Psychodrama training institutes exist in many countries around the world.


So, which role has your actions taken on, in this little theatrical production?

The frightened citizen too scared of terrorism to know better demanding protection?

The skeptic too wrapped up into conspiracy theories to actually do something?

The willing and patriotic citzens denying the actions of Government involvement?

Or the person pulling the strings apart of the official story to find out the real story?

Tuning fork vibrations in super slow motion


The Twin Towers were hit one after another like an inexperienced man using a tuning fork.

First one hit, then another, tuning us all into the psychodrama unfolding through security theater.

Making all of society suscpetible to the message being put out about tighter security needs.

If in fact the events of 9/11 were an inside job then a few things are obvious.

1) A coup against the American populace, the U.S. Constitution, and two branches of Government.

2) The creation of not only the Department of Homeland Security, Transportation Security Administration, and a vital restructuring of all functionary organizational structure of the entire inefficient Government, to streamline the entire system.

3) Side-stepping corporate interests of airlines and airports to force Government assimilation.

4) Giving deniability to certain interested parties trying to force their secret agenda.

5) Using all of this to make us uncomfortable to demand a better solution.

I am of course referencing the implementation of the R.F.I.D. chip process.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/854f69bf2c74.jpg[/atsimg]

If you do not want to feel like a piece of meat you have a choice and a simple one.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5e30336b34e2.jpg[/atsimg]

SUBMIT.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/48ab02614582.jpg[/atsimg]

If you do not want your pictures broadcast across the Internet you have a choice.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a59e58fbb44f.jpg[/atsimg]

SUBMIT.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6737c696c377.jpg[/atsimg]

If you want the right to concealed carry permits without intrusive scans of your body?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/338cc3d8b0fa.jpg[/atsimg]

SUBMIT.

It is my supposition that if you want to see who created this nonsense you have but one choice.

Look in a mirror.

Instead of putting the pieces together as a community we fight amongst ourselves.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9a413f6e7db6.jpg[/atsimg]

The left-wing/right-wing, Official Story/Government Involvement, terrorists/False-Flag Operation argument has grown old, instead we should be focusing on working together, put aside our egos, come together and put pieces together in such a way as to recognize each others for our achievements for our fellow man or woman, yet we are just as competitive, banal, trifling, small-minded, petty, and childish as those people within Government seem to think when they utilize such measures as divide and conquer, racial hatred, or even sending in an Agent Provacateur amongst us.

Instead of arguing over explosives being planted look for better evidence.

Instead of arguing over plane or predator drone hitting the Pentagon look for better evidence.

Instead of claiming Israeli involvement through Mossad look for better evidence.

What about those corporations within the building themselves?


Quote from : Wikipedia : List of World Trade Center Tenants

This is a list of the major tenants of the New York World Trade Center at the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks. Three World Trade center was a hotel owned by Marriott.

One World Trade Center included the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, Marsh USA, Cantor Fitzgerald Securities, and Windows on the World.

Two World Trade Center included Verizon, the New York Stock Exchange, Morgan Stanley, and Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, and Aon Corporation.

Four World Trade Center included Deutsche Bank and the New York Board of Trade.

Five World Trade Center included Credit Suisse First Boston and Morgan Stanley.

Six World Trade Center included the United States Department of Commerce and the United States Department of Labor.

Seven World Trade Center included Salomon Smith Barney, the Securities & Exchange Commission, and the U.S. Secret Service.


An awful lot of bankers were hit on that day including the New York Stock Exchange offices.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7c49045f0b3d.jpg[/atsimg]

If money is collapsed where do you think the solution will come from?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6069b530fc32.jpg[/atsimg]

Something as insignificant as say perhaps the cashless society through bargaining?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4d0ab0bbc547.jpg[/atsimg]

You walk through devices at Wal-Mart which you are oblivious of until the cashier screws up.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/79d097d8e3ab.jpg[/atsimg]

Yet the infrastructure has been around decades and decades and ties back to WWII.

IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3c9c27969530.jpg[/atsimg]


Booklist : Amazon Review :

The publisher has ordered a print run of 100,000 copies, indicating that they expect high demand for this contentious expose.

The author asserts that a collusion existed between IBM Corporation and the government of the Third Reich, wherein IBM supplied the technology enabling Nazi authorities to systematize their persecution of European Jews.

Expect much discussion in the press and on the street about this very controversial book.

Brad Hooper
Copyright ©

American Library Association.

All rights reserved


Starting at this point.

The Nazi Punch Card


Leading to this point.

Tattoos From Auschwitz Reunite Survivors


And eventually on to this.

FIRST AND SECOUND PLANE HIT THE TWIN TOWERS


Like a tuning fork to get our attention and ready for this eventuality.

IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market


This is not to say that only the banks had the ability to profit but organizations as well.

Two specific organizations though have the means to pull off this heist.

Because 9/11 was essentially a high-stakes bank robbery from the Treasury.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Federal Emergency Management Agency

The Federal Emergency Management Agency, or FEMA, is an agency of the United States Department of Homeland Security, initially created by Presidential Order on 1 April 1979.

The primary purpose of FEMA is to coordinate the response to a disaster that has occurred in the United States and that overwhelms the resources of local and state authorities.

The governor of the state in which the disaster occurs must declare a state of emergency and formally request from the president that FEMA and the federal government respond to the disaster.

FEMA also provides these services for territories of the United States, such as Puerto Rico.

The only exception is when an emergency and/or disaster occurs on federal property or to a federal asset, for example, the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, or the Space Shuttle Columbia in the 2003 return-flight disaster.

While on-the-ground support of disaster recovery efforts is a major part of FEMA's charter, the agency provides state and local governments with experts in specialized fields and funding for rebuilding efforts and relief funds for infrastructure, in conjunction with the Small Business Administration.

FEMA also assists individuals and businesses with low interest loans.

In addition to this, FEMA provides funds for training of response personnel throughout the United States and its territories as part of the agency's preparedness effort.


...and of course...


Quote from : Wikipedia : Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is an agency of the United States Department of Defense responsible for the development of new technology for use by the military.

DARPA has been responsible for funding the development of many technologies which have had a major effect on the world, including computer networking, as well as NLS, which was both the first hypertext system, and an important precursor to the contemporary ubiquitous graphical user interface.

Its original name was simply Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA), but it was renamed to "DARPA" (for Defense) in March 1972, then renamed "ARPA" again in February 1993, and then renamed "DARPA" again in March 1996.

DARPA was established during 1958 (as ARPA) in response to the Soviet launching of Sputnik during 1957, with the mission of keeping U.S. military technology more sophisticated than that of the nation's potential enemies. From DARPA's own introduction,

DARPA’s original mission, established in 1958, was to prevent technological surprise like the launch of Sputnik, which signaled that the Soviets had beaten the U.S. into space.

The mission statement has evolved over time.

Today, DARPA’s mission is still to prevent technological surprise to the US, but also to create technological surprise for its enemies.


DARPA is independent from other more conventional military R&D and reports directly to senior Department of Defense management. DARPA has around 240 personnel (about 140 technical) directly managing a $3.2 billion budget.

These figures are "on average" since DARPA focuses on short-term (two to four-year) projects run by small, purpose-built teams.


Think about it for a minute because money was not the only goal but information access.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/27ced99bc1e5.jpg[/atsimg]

And our information is just as valuable as monetary gain if not more so.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Information Awareness Office

The Information Awareness Office (IAO) was established by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in January 2002 to bring together several DARPA projects focused on applying surveillance and information technology to track and monitor terrorists and other asymmetric threats to national security, by achieving Total Information Awareness (TIA).

This would be achieved by creating enormous computer databases to gather and store the personal information of everyone in the United States, including personal e-mails, facebook details, credit card records, phone calls, medical records, and numerous other sources, without any requirement for a search warrant.

This information would then be analyzed to look for suspicious activities, connections between individuals, and "threats".

Additionally, the program included funding for biometric surveillance technologies that could identify and track individuals using surveillance cameras, and other methods.

Following public criticism that the development and deployment of these technologies could potentially lead to a mass surveillance system, the IAO was defunded by Congress in 2003.

However, several IAO projects continued to be funded, and merely run under different names.


This is nothing more than a means of bypassing our 4th Amendment Rights.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Information Awareness Office : History

The IAO was established after Admiral John Poindexter, former United States National Security Advisor to President Ronald Reagan and SAIC executive Brian Hicks approached the US Department of Defense with the idea for an information awareness program after the attacks of September 11, 2001.

Poindexter and Hicks had previously worked together on intelligence-technology programs for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.

DARPA agreed to host the program and appointed Poindexter to run it in 2002

The IAO began funding research and development of the Total Information Awareness (TIA) Program in February 2003 but renamed the program the Terrorism Information Awareness Program in May that year after an adverse media reaction to the program's implications for public surveillance.

Although TIA was only one of several IAO projects, many critics and news reports conflated TIA with other related research projects of the IAO, with the result that TIA came in popular usage to stand for an entire subset of IAO programs.


John Poindexter?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3d428fee5346.jpg[/atsimg]

That man?


Quote from : Wikipedia : John Poindexter

John Marlan Poindexter (born August 12, 1936) is a retired American naval officer and Department of Defense official.

He was Deputy National Security Advisor and National Security Advisor for the Reagan administration.

He was convicted in April 1990 of multiple felonies as a result of his actions in the Iran-Contra affair, but his convictions were reversed on appeal in 1991.

More recently, he served a brief stint as the director of the DARPA Information Awareness Office for the George W. Bush administration.


The same man who controlled this man?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ab5e2c8cddec.jpg[/atsimg]

Kind of makes you wonder does it not?

Just who exactly is controlling all of these pieces of the puzzle?

A few books that were dug through for source material other than I.B.M. and the Holocaust.

The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/995a50b011c3.jpg[/atsimg]


Amazon Review :

The Bush years have given rise to fears of a resurgent Imperial Presidency.

Those fears are justified, but the problem cannot be solved simply by bringing a new administration to power.

In his provocative new book, The Cult of the Presidency, Gene Healy argues that the fault lies not in our leaders but in ourselves.

When our scholars lionize presidents who break free from constitutional restraints, when our columnists and talking heads repeatedly call upon the "commander in chief " to dream great dreams and seek the power to achieve them--when voters look to the president for salvation from all problems great and small--should we really be surprised that the presidency has burst its constitutional bonds and grown powerful enough to threaten American liberty?

The Cult of the Presidency takes a step back from the ongoing red team/blue team combat and shows that, at bottom, conservatives and liberals agree on the boundless nature of presidential responsibility.

For both camps, it is the president's job to grow the economy, teach our children well, provide seamless protection from terrorist threats, and rescue Americans from spiritual malaise.

Very few Americans seem to think it odd, says Healy, "when presidential candidates talk as if they're running for a job that's a combination of guardian angel, shaman, and supreme warlord of the earth."

Healy takes aim at that unconfined conception of presidential responsibility, identifying it as the source of much of our political woe and some of the gravest threats to our liberties.

If the public expects the president to heal everything that ails us, the president is going to demand--or seize--the power necessary to handle that responsibility.

Interweaving historical scholarship, legal analysis, and trenchant cultural commentary, The Cult of the Presidency traces America's decades-long drift from the Framers' vision for the presidency: a constitutionally constrained chief magistrate charged with faithful execution of the laws.

Restoring that vision will require a Congress and a Court willing to check executive power, but Healy emphasizes that there is no simple legislative or judicial "fix" to the problems of the presidency.

Unless Americans change what we ask of the office--no longer demanding what we should not want and cannot have--we'll get what, in a sense, we deserve.


...and...

The Terror Conspiracy: Deception, 9/11 and the Loss of Liberty

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4c9dee81072e.gif[/atsimg]


Amazon Review :

Since 9/11, the world has become more and more aware of terrorism.

It has become a part of our daily lives.

We are constantly shown acts of terrorism on the news, reminded to fear the terrorists, and that we are fighting a war on terror.

To that end, the US Government has used its official conspiracy theory for 9/11 to substantiate the actions of war and the continued disregard for liberties-all in the name of fighting terrorism.

This theory concludes that nineteen suicidal Middle Eastern Muslim hijackers, their hearts full of hatred for American freedom and democracy, hijacked four airliners.

Reportedly, two planes were crashed into the Twin Towers of New York City's World Trade Center, a third into the Pentagon, and the fourth crashed in rural western Pennsylvania after its passengers fought with the hijackers.

This whole "Mission Impossible" operation, able to defeat the United States' four-hundred-billion-dollar defense system, reportedly was under the total control of a zealous Muslim cleric using a computer while hiding in cave in Afghanistan.

In The Terror Conspiracy: Deception, 9/11 and the Loss of Liberty, the world's leading conspiracy theorist, Jim Marrs, unmasks the facts about 9/11 and the New World Order.

Using primarily mainstream media and government reports, Marrs offers a more realistic and better-supported conspiracy theory.

He has crafted the definitive journalistic account of these events, describing the full history behind the overt and covert causes, and exposing the likely complicity of the Bush administration in the 9/11 attacks.

Jim Marrs asks those question few have been willing to discuss since that fateful day.

His analysis goes far beyond 9/11, enabling us to understand the motivation behind American foreign policy that resulted in war in Afghanistan and Iraq, our now perpetual War on Terrorism, and the continuing loss of freedom in America.

The book also contains the explosive essay The Pentagon Attack Papers - Seven Hours in September : The Clock that Broke the Lie, by Barbara Honegger, M.S.

Barbara Honegger is Senior Military Affairs Journalist at the Naval Postgraduate School (1995-present), the Navy’s advanced science, technology and national security affairs university.

Honegger served as Special Assistant to the Assistant to the President and White House Policy Analyst (1981-83); was the pioneering Irangate author and whistleblower on the October Surprise.


...and...

No Place To Hide

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4884c080bdec.jpg[/atsimg]


Amazon Review :

George Orwell envisioned Big Brother as an outgrowth of a looming totalitarian state, but in this timely survey Robert O'Harrow Jr. portrays a surveillance society that's less centralized and more a joint public/private venture.

Indeed, the most frightening aspect of the Washington Post reporter's thoroughly researched and naggingly disquieting chronicle lies in the matter-of-fact nature of information hunters and gatherers and the insatiable systems they've concocted.

Here is a world where data is gathered by relatively unheralded organizations that smooth the way for commercial entities to find the good customers and avoid dicey ones.

Government of course too has an interest in the data that's been mined.

Information is power, especially when trying to find the bad guys.

The mutually compatible skills and needs shared by private and public snoopers were fusing prior to the attacks of 9/11, but the process has since gone into hyperdrive.

O'Harrow weaves together vignettes to record the development of the "security-industrial complex," taking pains to personalize his chronicle of a movement that's remained (perhaps purposefully) faceless.

Recognizing the appeal of state-of-the-art systems that can track down a murderer/rapist with heretofore unimaginable speed, the author recognizes, too, that the same devices can mistakenly destroy reputations and cast a pall over a free society.

In a post-9/11 world where homeland security often trumps personal liberty, this work is an eye-opener for those who take their privacy for granted.


The above books are by no means the limit of my research but only the tip of the iceberg.
edit on 11/19/10 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight Into the Post.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 06:54 PM
link   
Wow!
Impressive read and 1000 stars (if I could).

But remember this...
WE let this happen.
If by decades of apathy, or
the chase of the 'Dream'...
Somehow, we the people, put this on ourselves.
If only people knew what was being carefully planned...

This information should be published and broadcast to every living TV owner.
It seems the only thing that you have todo as a person...

Is choose.
What will you accept?
Their way or your way?


Great thread!



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 06:58 PM
link   
reply to post by havok
 


Amen to that havok.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/556b54d98101.gif[/atsimg]

The choice is indeed our to make but we must make it wisely.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 07:01 PM
link   
What..

The...

Hell...



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 07:04 PM
link   

Originally posted by roboe
What..

The...

Hell...


The Transportation Security Administration is a direct reaction to 9/11.

It is also something the Federal Government tried for decades prior to 9/11.

But the airports and airlines corporations told them it would never happen.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 07:10 PM
link   
SKL - put a lot together in this thread!

So let's see - Is security theater a realistic possibility? Yes, I think so... (brought that up myself in other threads) Is the act of seeking to implement population submission a realistic possibility? Yes, I think so... (the Govt. would like us all to do as they wish, when they wish, it would be very easy to "Lead" us then) and Is the idea of "never letting an opportunity go to waste" a realistic concept? Yes... (we've been shown time and again how those who anticipate, plan and who are ready at the right time, will capitalize on opportunity) but is it realistic to accept that all the pieces have been "pre-planned and are orchestrated with a pre-planned end-goal?" It's possible, but how probable is it that if true, would actually work out the way the plan was laid out?



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 07:15 PM
link   

Originally posted by LadySkadi
SKL - put a lot together in this thread!

So let's see - Is security theater a realistic possibility? Yes, I think so... (brought that up myself in other threads) Is the act of seeking to implement population submission a realistic possibility? Yes, I think so... (the Govt. would like us all to do as they wish, when they wish, it would be very easy to "Lead" us then) and Is the idea of "never letting an opportunity go to waste" a realistic concept? Yes... (we've been shown time and again how those who anticipate, plan and who are ready at the right time, will capitalize on opportunity) but is it realistic to accept that all the pieces have been "pre-planned and are orchestrated with a pre-planned end-goal?" It's possible, but how probable is it that if true, would actually work out the way the plan was laid out?


Great post and as well excellent question you postulated.

Well, knowing pre-planning is something done, eventualities will be built in.

Contingency planning is a must to cover all possibilities.

If instead of A leading to B it leads to C outcomes will change.

But those types of things are planned for to hedge their bets if you will.

Many times the Central Intelligence Agency has funded both sides of the conflict.

Just to make money, to see the results, and because different departments did not know.

Only an Administration knows all of the details and even then they do not know all.
edit on 11/19/10 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight Into the Post.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 07:36 PM
link   
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


Don't get me going again on the TSA and Body scanners Spartan.............I've replied to several threads already today about this and had to take 1/2 a valium and a cup of chamomile tea before my 10:30 bedtime.


Survice it to say, I will not fly again while body scanners and love pats are mandated. No one is touching me or taking pictures of me nude without my permission.

As stated in my previous post...........this is just another brick in the wall, another slap in the face to the common working person losing more of their freedom as well as now openingly treating customers like cattle.

I remember when you use to get a glass of champaign and a nice little meal, then they rolled it back to a crummy tiny bag of pretzels (six pretzels) and a little plastic cup of cola, now it's shoes off, body scans and touchy touchy.

TPTB keep adding insult to injury all in the name of Homeland Security. And god, I'm so sick of that term, sounds like something out of a nazi movie. mein fuhrer - sieg heil

So much going on, "fusion centers" going up, fences along our border (which can be used both ways to keep immigrants out but also to keep us in).

Body scanners and invading of private space.

Cameras on every street corner.

Children and adults being told it is good to inform (snitch) on your parents, neighbors, etc.......

It's beginning to really look like 1984 and I suspect, unless people unite and rebel the loss of our freedoms will continue.

Talking about it on ATS is good but words are cheap.

I refuse now to fly...........and will let my money talk for me and strongly suggest everybody else do the same. If everybody refused the body scan and pat down and the airlines lost enough money they would yank those body scanner out so quick it wouldn't be funny.

However, what is to say they wouldn't, couldn't or haven't already started doing this secretly? One never knows. I have found cameras tucked into the weirdest places in both office buildings and airports.

None of the airlines that employ body scanners or strangers to touch me where only my husband is allowed will get my money period.

I've already posted several times on this today and just find it amazing anyone would allow this to be done on their person.................I thought only criminals got treated this way, now it's law abiding citizens that work, pay taxes and make a complete stop at all stop signs.

I do think this whole thing is another part to an even larger conspiracy to rein us all in and make us subservant slaves.

My husband says, "it's to protect us".

I say BS!

Who is working for who?

Read my location, says it all.

Yes I am mad, I love to fly and now that I have the money to - this kind of frap ruling pops up.

I say that the Senate and Congressmen who voted for this get body scanned and their pictures put up on the internet.........seems fair don't you think?


Now if you want to explore more indepth about 9/11 and more evidence read: "911 The Ultimate Truth" by Laura Knight Jadczyk and Joe Quinn..............there was never a valid or though investigation because 911 was a false flag operation orchestrated by one of our alphabet agencies within our government.


edit on 19-11-2010 by ofhumandescent because: spelling



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 07:43 PM
link   
An extremely interesting man to watch about Security Theater is Bruce Schneier.

Go Open - Bruce Schneier Part 1 Full Interview


A very interesting interview.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Bruce Schneier

Bruce Schneier (born January 15, 1963, pronounced /ˈʃnaɪər/) is an American cryptographer, computer security specialist, and writer.

He is the author of several books on computer security and cryptography, and is the founder and chief technology officer of BT Counterpane, formerly Counterpane Internet Security, Inc.

He received his master's degree in computer science from the American University in Washington, DC in 1988.


And this 18 part video interview is astounding in bits and pieces.

Bruce Schneier part 1 of 18 - Introduction


Bruce Schneier part 2 of 18 - What is security?


Bruce Schneier part 3 of 18 - What is national security?


Bruce Schneier part 4 of 18 - Technology and security


Bruce Schneier part 5 of 18 - Politics and security


Bruce Schneier part 6 of 18 - Security theater


Bruce Schneier part 7 of 18 - Airport security


Bruce Schneier part 8 of 18 - Identification-based security


Bruce Schneier part 9 of 18 - I.D. card-based security


Bruce Schneier part 10 of 18 - Problems with I.D.-based security


Bruce Schneier part 11 of 18 - The No-Fly List


Bruce Schneier part 12 of 18 - Circumventing the No-Fly List


Bruce Schneier part 13 of 18 - The Secure Flight program


Bruce Schneier part 14 of 18 - The REAL I.D. program


Bruce Schneier part 15 of 18 - Cost problems with REAL I.D.


Bruce Schneier part 16 of 18 - Security problems with REAL I.D.


Bruce Schneier part 17 of 18 - The chilling effect of I.D.-based security


Bruce Schneier part 18 of 18 - Biometric data

edit on 11/19/10 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight Into the Post.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 07:52 PM
link   
reply to post by ofhumandescent
 


But the Transportation Security Administration is offspring of events like 9/11?

We have to tell these people that enough is enough or our liberties are totally gone.

My apologies if I have riled you up but apparently not enough citizens are pissed off.

We are seen as nothing more than cattle, sheeple, or commodities to those in power.

Nameless face because they travel in luxury on their own jets without rubbing elbows with citizens.

Those "fusion centers" were another lie to show the prohibitive costs of that monstrosity.

Instead the R.F.I.D. chip program is much easier, cost effective, and less stress.

All you have to do is one simple thing.

SUBMIT.

I say not only no but Hell no.

Hell No!



I've never heard of that book but I will look it up and I offer one to you.

Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7ed3308d8355.jpg[/atsimg]


Amazon Review :

A dozen carefully researched books have exposed the official story of 9/11 to be a terror fraud.

Yet the mainstream media have monolithically failed to ask elementary questions about anomalies in this story.

So-called alternative media have been little better.

Towers of Deception explains why and prescribes actions to break out the truth.

Authored by a lifelong journalist who was for thirty-five years a media critic, Towers of Deception provides twenty-six “exhibits” of evidence proving “beyond a reasonable doubt” that 9/11 was an inside job.

It then presents case histories of de facto censorship by mainstream media and examines the psychological phenomenon of denial.

“False flag” operations and psychological warfare are dealt with in detail, as is the “invisible government”—the powers pulling strings behind the scenes.

Following a profile of Dr. David Ray Griffin as an authentic prophet of the 9/11 truth movement, Towers of Deception urges people to speak truth to power and challenge all media.

Interspersed with photographs, diary entries, and inspiring profiles of those who see 9/11 truth as the Achilles’ heel of the neocon agenda, Towers of Deception includes a professional-quality DVD produced by the author:

The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw.

edit on 11/19/10 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight Into the Post.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 08:33 PM
link   
Spart,
You know how I feel about this,
and it still amazes me how many people still are buying into the 'benefits' we supposedly are getting from allowing this slow and steady monster to grow bigger and get closer inch by inch day by day created event by created event.
With little (very little) coverage and press starting late last year the idea was 'tested' or should I say 'introduced' as to what to expect in selected airports,
coming soon, full body scanners, when it was 'tested' it was 'promoted' as filling a need,
and the population allowed that info to slowly settle into place, into a premature acceptance.
If you remember, there was some speaking out against it but it was hushed, it became a non-event because it wasnt loudly proclaimed or advertised.
Then actually very quickly, the technology was put into place almost everywhere, quietly, all in the predetermined timeline that brings us to current day, weeks away and now days away from one of the biggest travel periods of the year here in the states.
Coincidence?
Only if you drink your bleach with a chaser of koolaid.


The 'TEST' has been recently teased with the few released news stories, (actually subliminal instruction videos and properly weighted propaganda backed up with postive statements and warnings by those delivering the message on any of the networks viewed),
the real test is now days away, the submitters vs the opt outs and the public displays that will follow.
Oh yes there will be public displays,
Fellow flyers divided, right at the security check point, an already established nusiance point, a bottleneck and potential boiling pot on the stove,
the perfect petri dish to yield the data sought after by the creators of this lunatic procedure.
How many 'citizens' will band together to defend eachothers rights OR how many will become annoyed at the slowing of their travels by those not participating in this ?
Will flights be delayed? Will incidents occur? Will Police be called in? Will military be called in?
Will there be physical fights? Tasings? Handcuffs? Joined mobs attacking TSA agents.
Will there be chaos, or will there be a little louder than normal baaaing from the gathered flock 'at first' only to become quiet and passive and obedient,
The outcome, the data gathered, will steer the course of where 'they' take this next!
Bet your life on it.
There's a plan for either reaction, and this agenda will move forward.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 08:48 PM
link   
reply to post by HappilyEverAfter
 


Of course I know how you feel.

Cancer Surviving Flight Attendant Forced To Remove Prosthetic Breast During Pat-Down

How stupid is this absurdity going to go before we demand these people to stop this nonsense?

This is nothing more than creating a frenzy through people being offended to create another monster.

Namely pushing the R.F.I.D. chip agenda upon unsuspecting citizens who will not fight it.

When I reference fighting it I am referencing politically not physically because people just do not know how.

They would rather speak of weapons and barbaric tactics than using their brains first.

To All American Politicians, Are You Honorable Enough To Agree To This? The XXVIII Amendment !

I agree with LadySkadi and you on this that the politicians must submit to this first.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:04 PM
link   
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


www.barcodesinc.com...
www.barcodesinc.com...
www.barcodesinc.com...
www.barcodesinc.com...
www.barcodesinc.com...
www.barcodesinc.com...
(company links not product discussed but companies for example)
Spart, I'm sorry to say although I agree with you on tackling this politically, I dont think it will be addressed and remedied, it will go physical, and there are no doubt those that want it to, so the excuse can be offered,
"see, see how badly its needed, these arent people these are animals",
There are over 130 companies positioned to make billions off of this, I've posted a drop in the bucket.
The latest thing now, is a tattoo, you cant see it, it's not cosmetically unattractive, and the readers need only line of sight, and that's easily made possible by entrance design or placement of enough readers,
so the argument of invasive procedure is being washed away.
This will happen Spart,
Whether it lasts or not is another story,
Do I see revolt? Yes
Those that die during it wont be missed by those seeking this type of world,
This is a sick bunch were dealing with,
What needs to be done is focus on the moves, try and read the play, read the next desired reaction.
People laugh, say I'm over the top, that's fine,I hope I am wrong.
This gets accepted at airports? This will be everywhere in 5 years, quote me on it.
edit on 19-11-2010 by HappilyEverAfter because: clarity



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:11 PM
link   
reply to post by HappilyEverAfter
 


I agree with you that this will happen unfortunately.

Because people are just too submissive and stupid.

They have forgotten that they own this country not anyone else.

Instead of paying attention they drool like idiots watching American Idol.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:14 PM
link   
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


You still have a spot reserved is casa d bunka,
BYOG-BYOA
Amigo!



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:17 PM
link   
I'm aware... for what seems forever... An eerie future we face I feel a little uncomfortable about it

You Americans think it's bad try living out here... We are ahead of you on a lot of stuff from topic...



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:17 PM
link   
With all the money I'm saving by not flying, I am accumilating a massive arsenal of self defense or offense as the case may be.
This is going to be very interesting how this scenario plays out.
Great OP S&F Sir



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:26 PM
link   

Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


You still have a spot reserved is casa d bunka,
BYOG-BYOA
Amigo!


If it comes to that, if it does indeed, you just never know.

I think this ship can be redirected though.

With enough people pushing back without violence.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:27 PM
link   
reply to post by Sinter Klaas
 


Care to share some examples?

I have not heard much from your neck of the woods.

And your laws differ from ours how exactly?



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:29 PM
link   

Originally posted by Granite
With all the money I'm saving by not flying, I am accumilating a massive arsenal of self defense or offense as the case may be.
This is going to be very interesting how this scenario plays out.
Great OP S&F Sir


And I so liked those frequent-flyer miles.

I wonder when trains, buses, and cars will go this route.

Our infrastructure is still so exposed it's not even funny.




top topics



 
204
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join