"FDA Bans Caffeine In Alcoholic Beverages?"

No one has an opinion on what kind of torture I should receive for the crime of offering a caffeinated alcoholic beverage to consumers?

Surely someone must have an opinion on what kind of violent force must be employed to prevent people like myself from meeting consumer desires.

Caffeine may not be being banned all together, but this is a first step towards it. No if you will excuse me I am headed to the store to stock up on Mt. Dew.

Originally posted by mnemeth1
Snorting glue is totally retarded.

Yet people do it.

Perhaps we should ban glue.

Glues main purpose is not to be snorted but to glue things together so this is not an appropriate comparison.
Bad example.

Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by mnemeth1
Snorting glue is totally retarded.

Yet people do it.

Perhaps we should ban glue.

Glues main purpose is not to be snorted but to glue things together so this is not an appropriate comparison.
Bad example.

I thought alcohols main purpose was to get you drunk.

By that logic, its the alcohol that should be banned and not the caffeine.

Oh wait - we tried that once I seem to recall.

It ended up creating people like Al Capone.

Come now.

Someone SURELY must have an opinion on what kind of brutal violence must be employed to prevent people like myself from offering customers caffeinated alcoholic beverages.

Just throw out some random violent acts and see which ones make the most sense.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

You cant legislate against stupidity. People are going to be stupid dumbasses whether it's against the law to be or not. Whether some "evil big business" is selling the product or not.

It's not stupidity which we legislate against with this act, it's the proliferation of foolish actions.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Depending on how one rationalizes such an absurd measure will help define your place on the idiocy scale. Maybe you're actually sort of smart. Maybe you're real target is alcohol consumption as a whole and you'll take any win you can get. Maybe you're actually a real idiot and think that by keeping peanut butter and jelly out of the same jar nobody will ever put them together outside of their respective jars. Maybe you're just carrying some ridiculous ideal based vendetta against anyone and anything that turns a profit. Maybe you just love your government so much it just cant ever make a mistake.

I want the real reason for support. At least then I know you've tried to think.

Screw you. I'm probably more of a thinker than you could ever become.

Anyone can mix any combinations of substances and ingest them as they like for all I care, but deliberately marketing and mass producing a cheap drug which combines depressants and stimulants is unethical. They've not only made it incredibly easy to partake in the activity, but likely encourage it through it simply existing premixed in the first place.

It's not about controlling people's ability to think and act, or however you guys seem to interpret this. It's about standing up to big business, and doing what's right. I don't care where the corruption stands, with the individual, the state, or the corporation, it must be checked.

reply to post by unityemissions


Allowing anyone but yourself to run your life is a foolish action.

Perhaps we should ban people who engage in such foolish behavior as electing politicians to run their lives for them.

Ok here's the scenario.

I'm a bar tender at a local night club.

You are an FDA enforcement officer.

You see me deliberately make someone a vodka-redbull cocktail.

GO!



Weapons to chose from:

-3 million volt taser
-Fox pepper spray
-.45 caliber Glock handgun
-Baton
-Bare fists

Originally posted by unityemissions
It's about standing up to big business, and doing what's right.

Yeah. That's what I figured. Must be quite the burden you carry. Always knowing what's right and all. Not only knowing but acting on it through force of law at gunpoint to make sure we all get to benefit from what you think is "right."

Thank you for blessing us with your wisdom oh holy beneficent one. I would be forever lost in darkness had you not come up to tell me what it "right."

One of those "good" totalitarians.

reply to post by mnemeth1


That just gave me a great idea. A board game similar to Clue. But called Rule. Where your goal is to discover who committed what non-crime and how they will be punished.

Consider this time-stamp a copyright. I have to get working on this ASAP.

It was the High School Junior with the Red Bull sentenced 3-5 years with 5 years probation and counseling by a state assigned social worker.

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


I'm not a totalitarian. You guys are seriously like emotionally 4 year olds on this thread. You are twisting pretty much everything presented to you.

It IS a burden to do what's right, and speak out against corruption. I have no doubt that you know of this burden as well. What is right is not necessarily what's lawful, it's what's ethical and moral. Each individual has to determine this on their own; however, collectively, we've come a long way at gaining general understandings of things. Most people agree that deceit is a bad thing. There's a lot of that going on in this thread and in a lot of governments and big businesses. Just doing my part here.

reply to post by mnemeth1

Ok here's the scenario.

I'm a bar tender at a local night club.

You are an FDA enforcement officer.

You see me deliberately make someone a vodka-redbull cocktail.

GO!

Locking you in a room with someone that displays the same style of "debating" about any given topic as you do, but said person is forced to take every opposing view regardless of subject, just so you can hear the way you talk about things.

Hilarity would no doubt ensue.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by mnemeth1

 

That just gave me a great idea. A board game similar to Clue. But called Rule. Where your goal is to discover who committed what non-crime and how they will be punished.

Consider this time-stamp a copyright. I have to get working on this ASAP.

It was the High School Junior with the Red Bull sentenced 3-5 years with 5 years probation and counseling by a state assigned social worker.

Sir, I am a software developer.

I will help you create this game.

It will be like Counterstrike, only with FDA enforcers vs. bar tenders.

Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by mnemeth1
Snorting glue is totally retarded.

Yet people do it.

Perhaps we should ban glue.

Glues main purpose is not to be snorted but to glue things together so this is not an appropriate comparison.
Bad example.

I thought alcohols main purpose was to get you drunk.

By that logic, its the alcohol that should be banned and not the caffeine.

Oh wait - we tried that once I seem to recall.

It ended up creating people like Al Capone.

What about this are you not getting?
It's not one or the other, it's the COMBINATION that's the problem.
It's like bleach and amonia. Use them separately and you're good but combine them and OOPS ! You're dead !
Get it ?????

Originally posted by jfj123
What about this are you not getting?
It's not one or the other, it's the COMBINATION that's the problem.
It's like bleach and amonia. Use them separately and you're good but combine them and OOPS ! You're dead !
Get it ?????

No, I got that clearly.

Alcohol alone is good for you.

Caffeine alone is good for you.

Vodka-redbull? Its time for some 3 million volt taser action.

Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by jfj123
What about this are you not getting?
It's not one or the other, it's the COMBINATION that's the problem.
It's like bleach and amonia. Use them separately and you're good but combine them and OOPS ! You're dead !
Get it ?????

No, I got that clearly.

Alcohol alone is good for you.

Caffeine alone is good for you.

Vodka-redbull? Its time for some 3 million volt taser action.

edit on 16-11-2010 by mnemeth1 because: (no reason given)

Never said either was good for you but when you combine the 2, it's not good.
Debating this with you is like talking to a wall, except the wall has a more rounded argument

Next I expect you to say, "I know you are but what am I? "


And again, the FDA did not ban caffeine.

Originally posted by jfj123

Never said either was good for you but when you combine the 2, it's not good.
Debating this with you is like talking to a wall, except the wall has a more rounded argument

So:

Alcohol alone is bad for you.

Caffeine alone is bad for you.

Vodka-redbull - it's time for a steel baton to the face?

Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by jfj123

Never said either was good for you but when you combine the 2, it's not good.
Debating this with you is like talking to a wall, except the wall has a more rounded argument

So:

Alcohol alone is bad for you.

Caffeine alone is bad for you.

Vodka-redbull - it's time for a steel baton to the face?

HUH?
HUH?
What are you talking about? How can you expect me to know what you're talking about when you have no idea what you're talking about????????
You don't know what the law is about.
You don't have a basic understanding of human physiology.
You....oh forget it

And again, the FDA did NOT ban caffeine.

reply to post by mnemeth1


no, they're not banning caffiene. your thread title and pretty much your post is misleading. the ban is on alcoholic beverages the contain alcohol. and the reason is very clear, and very good.. people were and are still ending up in the hospital...

This is totally absurd.

It's OK to smoke cigarettes, eat food cooked in lard, and drink alcohol till you pass out.

But damn you put caffeine and alcohol together in the same drink

I don't consume alcohol anymore as I already drank my share years ago but I do attend functions where it is served.

One of my younger friends mixed Cotton Candy Vodka with red bull. She drank and danced for 5 hours only stopping to go to the bathroom and fix another drink.

At least she wasn't a sloppy drunk as she was very active.

The FDA is not trying to protect anyone but big money. Always follow the money trail.

I say legalize every drug and watch the population thin out.
It would be nice to have less idiots to worry about.

My philosophy is everything in moderation.