Anybody else living their everyday life as a Plan B?

I totally get what you're saying. Though I have a husband and child, I'm still hoping that something -- something big -- is going to happen that will turn the world upside down and sow the seeds for an entirely new paradigm and a new way of living... in harmony with nature and in harmony with each other.

In other words, I hope SOMETHING will happen between now and, say, 2013 (when NASA says a huge solar storm is most likely).

That said, I feel that it is quite likely that something will happen... in the past few weeks, I've had dreams of some natural disaster or "event" almost every night. It's like I'm being prepared for some event during sleep and I vaguely remember teachings that go on sometimes, but as much as I try to hold on to them when I wake up, a few minutes later I've forgotten.

Just two nights ago, I dreamed of a warning that something big was about to happen, and that everyone, when they saw it, should go inside and stay inside and not watch it. The "event" turned out to be something that almost looked like fireworks in the day time (the sky was blue) and something like fireballs were streaking across the sky, lots of them. Amazingly, in those dreams I'm never afraid for my life or anything... just completely awed and exhilarated.

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I plan on moving to the country, already have the place, old farm house on 5 acres, bought it a few years ago.

I can live for less then a third of the cost , grow your own food, chichens a beef cow etc,

That sounds awesome dude, I'd love to be able to afford a place like that. I'm interested to know what you're going to for an income, will you sell some of what you produce on the land?

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Your post, to me, makes you sound lazy.

You say that like it's a bad thing. If being lazy means someone enjoys their recreational time far more than working and realizes that the point of life is to enjoy it, not to work hard and pay off a mortgage then I'm proud to call myself lazy. Despite this laziness I still managed to put myself through an engineering degree.

I would like to hear from the posters who are so unhappy what they are doing to be happy. I don't believe most of them will even tell the truth, but I still would like to hear.

I became so much happier the moment I started working towards a better life for myself. I've spent the last two years working towards becoming a currency trader. It's the ideal job for me due to:
-the low hours
-the high income
-the ability to work from anywhere in the work that has an internet connection
-being my own boss
-not having to be somewhere at 9am on Monday morning! (and not having to sit in traffic)

To everyone else, you really don't need to change the system to live a nice comfortable life. There are plenty of occupations for those who prefer a recreational life to a working life:
-Professional poker player
-Professional sports bettor
-Arbitrager
-Surfing instructor
-etc

I'm a firm believer in being able to do anything you set your mind to. Money will always be a natural concept because bartering has severe limitations. It is not a coincidence that most civilizations evolved a currency.

Also watch the film "Into the Wild" if you haven't already!

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Wow... thats exactly what I'm talking about, you only see what you don't have and what you think you can't have, your a man who has already given up without ever trying...

I think you were what the people called the French in WW2... a Defeatist.

You have a negative connotation view on life... that's it...

Amazing, you managed to deduce all that from a one sentence reply to your post (you obviously didn't even read the rest of my post).

If you care to read what I have written above in this post (and the one you replied to) you will see that not only are you wrong about me being a defeatist who has given up but you are also wrong about me having a negative view on life.

People speaking out about the way of life you have obviously chosen and exposing it for what it really is seems to have touched a nerve with you. Is it because you already have too much time and emotion already invested to even consider that it is not the path to greatest happiness?

Wow, this thread is on the home page. Nice job guys

On another note, i find music can be incredibly helpful for this kind of thing. If you're having a rough day, put on some tunes and listen to a song you can empathize with. Or even with larger things like this.

Your not the only one. I've been having dreams along the lines of standing on a "new earth" with loved ones. Looking into a beautiful sky with two moons. The sky seems pink and purple... You could tell wed all been through hell, but we were all happy. I haven't had warning dreams, but a client of mine suddenly got on a kick of making an emergency kit. She's pretty straight n narrow, by the pravebial book. So... I didn't ask why she wanted it, but... We did end up discussing emergency situations. She mentioned tornado season... But... Its over. People know in the core of their being, like a lingering itch.. That something is coming to a head. And I'm sure it will result in a better society because of it.


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i feel that each and everyday, money is useless, it has no vaule. The rich get richer and the poor stay the same, i too want to learn and explore, perhaps it is a calling to a better life, perhaps we should find a way off this planet, and start a new civilization, that is truely fair to all, and justice is sevred to even the most powerful and rich, no bribs no getting away with crime.

A true golden age, i believe greed stems from stupidity, the inabiltiy to see whats best for your species as a whole, intellgence is a true blessing, and i hope in this new civilization, intellgence will be found everywhere you look, no more hate no more wars, no more pointless suffering. a true golden age, i will never rest untill i see this dream a reality.

Like rem's "mad world". Or... Any long list of pink floyed :-).... Mad world is always in my head anyway lol.


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plan b you say i even have a plan c >

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Yep that is very true and can be tied directly to that missile launch in California. With quite a few of the comments stating that perhaps it's show casing that at anytime we could launch a missile or rather we are just flexing our muscles. Such thinking does not bode well for our [the world's] current status. Though I did just wake up so if the story has changed a bit with new details I have missed them.

i can identify here to a degree. we're a totally automated workforce. there is no other way in this country to survive. just think of it as hitting an incredibly complex food bar like a (rat) to get your 'pellet' allowing your continued survival for x number of days with reasonable certainty. *argh* i know. but if you stop hitting that bar for any length of time, your resources run out and the machine chews you up.

what ive done is completely changed the way i think of my life and all the assorted crap that sucks about it. to me my life is a total game. not a game to be taken lightly, but a game none the less. im inside my head pilotting my body through the amazingly arbitrary minutia of daily existance. and everyones game is different but its there expressly for the purpose of entertaining your 'soul' or whatever you choose to call it.

if there are gamers here, its like at some points in the game your health and manna are near full and all is right with the world. other times your near death, almost out of energy. but there is a path to be walked so to speak. life guides you to the next experience and half the time im just awestruck how ridiculous the whole entire process really is. for whatever reson, these are the experiences i was chosen to have. picture yourself in the next life remembering all you went through while you were here.

***one of my all time favorite games is DOOM. i sure hope things dont get quite that dramatic, but if they do i feel like im ready.

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Mossme, I understand where you're coming from bro. Having a schedule could be a good thing though. We need balance in life and a schedule can produce that. The economy is overrated though. Yeah it feels good to have money in your pocket so you can buy things and go places and stuff but money could be a false sense of happiness.

They say, "There is a million ways to get things done"... Cutting loose is the hard part. My wives and my son traveled the USA using a national temp agency (so we were in their system no matter where we landed). We lived in campgrounds (some are still free, but very basic) in a tent. We did this for two years, then transitioned into an RV, and eventually bought some cheap property on "Contract to Deed", i built a cabin and we lived there for 7 years. Prior to this i was a TV commercial producer/director, and the a business owner. We sold everything and just left. Seen the beauty of this country and met some incredible people. There are a lot more than you'd think living out on the road. My system was, stay sober and off drugs - be polite and kind and enjoy whatever it is you find yourself doing. We picked up garbage at a baloon fest, i moved furniture for Sears, washed trucks for a large company, etc. but in between i lived in the mountains, deserts, forests etc. Life is a journey - Betrand Russel once said, ..."Do anything you want and try to avoid prison"... Also, be prepared others are also doing whatever they want...
Live like a gypsy, or at least try it, you can always go back to what you left and start fresh.

Defintely include me in the Plan B club! Plan A requires the end of the political (which I believe includes the religious) world as we know it. Here's always hoping for the death of the politician, and the birth - as in, for the first time EVER - of the TRUE public servant... but yeah, I'm not naive or holding my breath, either.

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I agree to an extent with what you are saying with an additional thought.
Capitalism does not work. As long as the world bases all of its advancements on a monetary system, we will always be held back by the very thing most people seek, wealth. New technologies and advanced medicine will always cost too much or have no value in bringing to market. I mean, why cure cancer, there is more money in treating it. Why solve energy problems, there is more money is charging for it, cheaper to stay the way things are. Why solve crime, more money in keeping the current system of government, enforcement and incarceration. If mankind truly wants to advance, feed the ones who cannot afford, heal the sick ones who are not fortunate enough to be healthy, allow everyone to have, and not be without, give to the world the advancements and tech we really have, or are capable of, we have to get off a monetary system.

Some of these things will come at a cost though. Freedom will have to be restricted in some cases. Such as, childbirth will have to be limited, due to increased lifespans and population, we have to control the sprawl of man. Eating habits will have to change, to remain healthy, no more fast food byproducts and genetically modified foods. Everyone will have to contribute to a more socialistic style society, willing to take part and do for all for and for each to gain.

The bottom line is, what is our true focus as a species and not as a man or woman or country? Why can't we all just evolve to the next step of achievement and get past where this world is now?

Right now there is the most abundant resource on this planet that is a perfect, renewable, and emission free source of energy. Hydrogen. If we burn it, we make water vapor. It can be electrolyzed from water, and the world is surrounded by it. We will put quite a bit more vapor in the air, but who cares, there are plenty of places that need more rain.

At the current rate we are going, we will extinct ourselves. Forget about comets, earthquakes, volcanoes, and other natural disasters, we will undoubtedly create some reason to destroy ourselves or this planet. This world has an almost perfect way of recycling itself and renewing itself, but there is one fault to this cycle, MANKIND.

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Crete.....in the Greek isles is a good choice for what your looking for. Click here to get an idea of what you could afford.

Land will be too expensive in the Greek Isles.
Having one's own land will be very important in the near future as society/economies break down worldwide.
It might be a good idea to purchase some acreage and build your own house per spec from the materials on the land.
Good learning opportunity as well.
Good land should take care of all one's needs.
Modern technology including alternative energy sources will make things much easier than 'back in the day'.

I don't live every day like I am on plan B, but I do live every single day TRULY not giving a damn about what ANYONE thinks. You have to imagine not that it's your last day on Earth, but that you're living on borrowed time.

I went to my last job interview (it was a nice summer day) wearing open toe sandals, no socks, a golf shirt, and beach shorts. They asked me why I didn't dress up. I told them why would they want me to portray a false image when I was trying to sell them on the "true me" in an interview? I got the job (hired on the spot), in an office, for a good salary. I still dress the same in the summertime when I go to work. Occassionally I shave. I meet clients nearly every single day, and they say how refreshing it is. The office I work in has changed their dress code now to match what I wear every day.

I recently went for an interview for a promotion at work (before they changed the dress code). Dressed the same way, got the job, got a raise, now in a management position. When I give presentations, I dress the same way.

Women are scared of me when they get to know me well. They tell people all the time they want to meet someone "real" but then when they do, they can't handle it. I have plenty of dates, even several quite long term (5 years plus) relationships. I'm currently single, but get proposed to about 3-5 times a week, on average. I don't go to the bars. I warn women, don't ask me if that dress makes you look fat. If it does, I'll tell you it does.

When people see someone who truly bucks the sterotype, and doesn't conform to the system, they are usually so surprised that they don't know what to think, especially when that person does a better job for them than the clean shaven counterpart in a three piece suit.

Kick back, relax, unwind. I'm over 50 and don't have a SINGLE grey hair.

It's true what they say, "don't sweat the small stuff, and it's all small stuff". You have to TRULY believe it to really live the life that backs this statement up. If you take ANYTHING as more than "small stuff" you ruin the whole effect.

If you're tired of the system ,look within yourself.

There doesn't have to be a plan. What is it that you wish for?

Visualize it ,feel it ,act upon it and the world will change accordingly.

How long it takes is up to you and how well you did those three steps.

Starred and Flagged OP.

My exact thoughts and feelings for years now.

Lazy is a word They developed to describe a poor performing SLAVE.reply to post by amc621

This realm of thought is something that reminds me of someone who has used lsd in the past

You have the power to change your life, anyone can. You just have to believe and know how, as they say knowledge is power.

Anything created with a piece of paper can be changed with another...

Contemplate that for a while and realise the self imposed limitations we all have. 99.99999% don't get it but those that do have the freedom to anything they want, even withIn 'the system', insofar as they do not breach the peace of another being.