15 Photos From The One Nation Rally They Do Not Want You To See

reply to post by Janky Red


I could dig up dozens of pics of tea party people with racist signs. You will say they are all photo shopped or infiltrators, or you will say its not racist to say that Obama is a foreign born Muslim who wants to enslave the white race.

im sorry, the above reply was meant for flyer fan.

Originally posted by butcherguy

I am a Libertarian. What kind of Republican agrees with legalization of unspeakable things? Not decriminalization, legalization..... And I am not a user! excluding nicotine of course.

That's my take on that situation as well. Who am I to specify how someone else can and cannot wreck their own little world? Likewise, they should have the common courtesy to let me wreck mine as I see fit.

I don't really classify myself as a Libertarian, but that sort of stance does put the "liberty" in "Libertarian".

The rest is not to you specifically, but rather the board in general.

Back when I was a "Republican", I was taken aback by the activities of the Bush regime. These guys were SUPPOSED to be Republicans, too, so what was up with this Patriot Act, Warrantless wiretaps, etc etc? I had only seen that sort of activity out of the LEFT before, and now my own guys were doing it? Who was driving this crazy train? Had "godless commies" taken over?

The I saw it.

The word "Neocon", which I was unfamiliar with, was applied to the Republicans. Yes, there HAD been a hostile takeover. Initially, I was confused. How had something that had all the appearances of the left done a hostile takeover of the right? I was convinced that Neocons came from the left - that's the only place I'd ever actually seen that sort of activity with my own eyes. Even Nazis were left, to my mind. After all, they had "Socialist" built right into their name, didn't they? Isn't the field on a Nazi flag RED?

It didn't help cure the confusion that they changed the color scheme around the year 2000. What WAS "blue" was now "red", and vice versa. Those big-assed election coverage maps just confused the bejesus out of me. How to follow this NEW mess without a scorecard? I'm still convinced that confusion was the very REASON for changing a long-standing visual scheme. Humans are generally visual creatures. Red had ALWAYS been the color indication the left, from American Democrats right on through to the RED Chinese communists and the RED Soviets. Suddenly, the right was now red instead - I had become a "red" without anyone even bothering to ask me about it, or inform me of it.

Eventually, I figured out that Neocons were not from the left. NOR were they from the right (as I already knew). They were from the same place that the Progressives, the Communists, the Nazis, and the Fascists were from.

They were, and ARE, Totalitarians, same as the rest on that list.

Totalitarianism really doesn't HAVE a "left" or a "right", it just tries to keep up that appearance, to keep the people confused and off balance. While the people keep swatting at each other over perceived, but non-existent divisions, the Totalitarians laugh, and keep raking power to themselves, and away from those distracted people. They consolidate and centralize that power, always gathering it away from US and to THEMSELVES, until one day the people wake up in an entirely different world than the one they were born into. Then it's too late to regain liberty without bloodshed. LOTS of bloodshed.

We all know, or should know, the inherent evils of the Neocons in the Bush regime. Patriot Acts I and II, Warrantless wiretaps.. etc., etc. The list goes on, all towards the same goal. Let's check in on the Progressives in the Obama regime, and see what the differences actually are.

The push for Cap-and-Rape er... I mean "Trade". The realization of the alleged "Health Care Reform", the "Individual Mandate" in particular...

But-but-but those are GOOD things, right? They're for the good of society, right?

So was PA I and II, and warrantless wiretapping sold as being for "the good of society" - they actually had quite the opposite effect of SUBJUGATING society... just as these new measures are designed to do.

How so? Lets concentrate on individual mandates to buy insurance. Currently, several lawsuits are under preparation to challenge the constitutionality of that travesty. So far, the regime's main defense is the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. They assert that it is their right to regulate interstate commerce by forcing the people to give money to the corporate insurance scam. A couple of problems there. Currently, there IS no "interstate commerce" in insurance. You can't buy insurance from one state in another. No "interstate commerce" to regulate. Furthermore, refusal or inability to buy a product is NOT "commerce", it's "non-commerce". I don't recall a "Non-Commerce Clause" in the Constitution.

If that punches through, what's next, "for the good of society"? I don't buy insurance. I take care of my own problems. Neither do I buy cars, chicken, or glass beads, among other things. How long before there is an "individual mandate" to force me to buy those things as well? After all, it's for the good of society for me to do so. It will drop the prices on those items, make them more affordable for all, and improve the economy, right? Where does it end? What can they NOT attempt to force me to buy, "for the good of society"? Who benefits most from this, "society" or the corporations that are set to rake in a record windfall?

That's what lets me know without a doubt that both horses on this team are drawing this little red wagon in the same direction - pulling power AWAY from the People, and towards the Totalitarians. It doesn't matter if it's the horse on the left or the horse on the right - it's not a "left/right" thing, nor is it for "the good of society", for "the People", or even "for the children". It's for the Totalitarians, and they just want you to THINK it's a left/right thing, so you keep sniping at one another, distracted away from the Truth, until one day you awaken, and don't know what the Truth IS any more.

Meanwhile, the distracted (and "American Idol" is not the ONLY distraction I see going on here) keep dancing the dance as the band plays on. Left foot first, right foot first, it makes no real difference. It only matters where those feet stop at the end of the dance, not who you can slap on the left or on the right while flinging your arms around DURING the dance. The end will be the same, whichever horse you back, or whichever foot you lead off with, whichever side you slap at.

You just need to decide whether you'd rather live in a gulag or a concentration camp, because THAT is where it ends.

reply to post by Fractured.Facade


Why is it that every anti-socialist conspiracy theory revolves around this imaginary threat of someone 'destroying America from within'? Why is it such a narrow view of the world? America is more valuable to everybody if it continues to exist, and most valuable if they can control it (of course, only native-born Americans can be monarch -- I mean president, so that won't ever happen).

A more important question: why is it that working class Americans think capitalism somehow benefits them? Is it because the average American's understanding of history and politics is

monarchy - we are slaves to the king
capitalism - if we own money we have power
communism - GODLESS

I guess it is better to have some small amount of power in the form of an insufficient wage than to be a slave to the king or to live in a GODLESS SOCIALIST UTOPIA!!

Originally posted by SmedleyBurlap

I guess it is better to have some small amount of power in the form of an insufficient wage than to be a slave to the king or to live in a GODLESS SOCIALIST UTOPIA!!

There is no such thing as a "socialist utopia", godless or otherwise. neither is there such a thing as a capitalist utopia, godless or otherwise. The notion of ANY sort of "utopia" runs counter to the facts of reality on the ground. That's why it's called a "utopia".

Looks like you're one of the ones still stuck in the matrix, tilting at the windmills on the right.

Here's a hint: the correct answer is NEITHER the red pill nor the blue. The correct answer is to give a pop in the yap to anyone and everyone who tries to force that pill on you, regardless of the color.

It's a Gordian Knot of sorts, and like the Gordian Knot, only when you properly solve the puzzle can you untie yourself from the matrix .

reply to post by Miraj


The Seperation of Church and State is Sacred in alot of Americans of Faith Minds .They know it is Essential to having a Fair and Just Goverment in a Free Society .Those who would Question the Motives of others who Profess their Faith in this Country are lacking in the Facts to Justify their Claims that Religion would somehow Rule over Law .

reply to post by Zanti Misfit


Still wouldn't past them..

Mob rule isn't fair.

reply to post by nenothtu


I know what a utopia is, I read Thomas Moore thank you very much! A star for you, because you also know that a utopia exists nowhere.

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by Miraj

 

The Seperation of Church and State is Sacred in alot of Americans of Faith Minds .They know it is Essential to having a Fair and Just Goverment in a Free Society .Those who would Question the Motives of others who Profess their Faith in this Country are lacking in the Facts to Justify their Claims that Religion would somehow Rule over Law .

yes,

the USSR tried to combine both under "communism",

which by the way,

was started by Karl Marx and Engles (both were Jews)

Trotsky and Lenin (Russian Jews) were early "Soviets".

Stalin was part Jewish, and supposedly persecuted Russian Jews.

it worked for a short time only.

reply to post by butcherguy


I see nothing of substance here, with the exception of you twisting labels to serve your own goals. It's not hard to figure out that you just can't stand liberals.

I've always seen the conservative mindset as outdated and a detriment to meaningful change in this world.

reply to post by The Sword


Nice.

Accuse another member of playing up partisanship, then proceeding to give us a practical demonstration on just how it's done yourself!

Nice.

Is it warm there inside the matrix?

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by butcherguy

 

I see nothing of substance here, with the exception of you twisting labels to serve your own goals. It's not hard to figure out that you just can't stand liberals.

I've always seen the conservative mindset as outdated and a detriment to meaningful change in this world.

You should know a little more about someone before you put your foot in your mouth.

I am conservative on a few points, liberal on others. Just because someone views Marxism as a failed by trial system doesn't make them a conservative.

Conservatives are anti-abortion, anti-drugs and anti-welfare. None of those describe me.

I do not condone a welfare state, but it is important that there is a safety net for those who need it.

I believe that drugs should be totally legalized, that physician-assisted suicide is OK and that public schools are NOT the place for prayer.

And you presume to think that I am a conservative? That I can't stand liberals? Some of my opinions are pure liberal. Look at my friends list when that function is operative again, there are some of the staunchest liberals on the site on it.

You have jumped to a conclusion.

I've always seen the conservative mindset as outdated and a detriment to meaningful change in this world.

This statement of yours reminds me of the time that Howard Cosell told OJ Simpson, " You have a firm grasp of the obvious." The definition of conservatism is "resistant to social change".

Its good to see one and all comming out of the closet these days. Taking off the mask. Leaving their dropings all over the place like untrained house pets. Mayby its more like marking thier spot like "we were here" said the pissing dog at the park.

Thanks for sharing,but do they want to change the USA to a socialist state?However ,i don't think that this will be realized.

Originally posted by Misoir
I think it would be best if the Democrats tilted towards Social democracy, at least we might have more than one option in America.

Glad to see proud Americans waving out alternatives such as Socialism, let the peoples voice rein!

- God save the Republic!

WHAT??? The left has been Socialist and racist ever since Woodrow Wilson. Socialism is never an option; socialism and liberty/freedom are polar opposites. Socialism/Communism are a hairs breadth apart, and have never worked.... anywhere. If you can show me where it's worked, we can discuss it.

reply to post by zappafan1


You asked and you're going to receive. First is first!
I would like you to get familiar with socialism.
What is Socialism
I can tell you the ideal of Socialism is more democratic with what we got in the U.S.
Here's two articles for the history and politics of socialism.
Socialism wiki
How Socialism works article

Originally posted by SmedleyBurlap
reply to post by Fractured.Facade

 

Why is it that every anti-socialist conspiracy theory revolves around this imaginary threat of someone 'destroying America from within'? Why is it such a narrow view of the world? America is more valuable to everybody if it continues to exist, and most valuable if they can control it (of course, only native-born Americans can be monarch -- I mean president, so that won't ever happen).

A more important question: why is it that working class Americans think capitalism somehow benefits them? Is it because the average American's understanding of history and politics is

monarchy - we are slaves to the king
capitalism - if we own money we have power
communism - GODLESS

I guess it is better to have some small amount of power in the form of an insufficient wage than to be a slave to the king or to live in a GODLESS SOCIALIST UTOPIA!!

Geez... I hope you don't live here in the U.S. Capitalism has raised the baseline of human existence above anything ever tried before. It is Capitalism that allows America to help feed, cloth and cure the world. What is Capitalism?: the free (unhindered) exchange of goods and services between free people. Capitalism generates profits that benefits everyone, and allows us (and industry) to clean up after ourselves.

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by zappafan1

 

You asked and you're going to receive. First is first!
I would like you to get familiar with socialism.
What is Socialism
I can tell you the ideal of Socialism is more democratic with what we got in the U.S.
Here's two articles for the history and politics of socialism.
Socialism wiki
How Socialism works article

As I said, Socialism/Communism has never worked anywhere, because government has total control over the population. The current riots across Europe show that socialist government policies eventually run out of other peoples money. Socialism is the opposite of personal liberty freedom. By the way, America is not a democracy; no democracy has lasted more than 200 years. True democracy is nothing more than mob rule. We have too much socialism in America as it is. If you've ever read the Bill of Rights, you might have noticed (though probably not) that there are no rights that place a burden on other people. Socialism places burdens on everyone, and more burdens equal less freedom (except for those in charge, of course.)

reply to post by zappafan1


I agree! That's why we need to continue to study the past, present and see what we can achieve in the future. Socialism and Communism is a way for people to achieve true democracy for their cause. Not the profits of the few. President Obama, John McCain, and whoever else is all the same. Another puppet selling lies and kissing but.

reply to post by shamus78


" I grew up in a socialist country. It was great. "


I Grew Up in a FREE Country , and it was GREATER . Anyone here that wants to DEBATE that with me can do it ANYTIME .....


LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC !