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Originally posted by Josephus23
reply to post by IAMIAM
Yeah..... What Proto said.
Anyway....
I never thought that I would extend sympathy to someone who was forced out of Freemasonry, but man I am really sorry. This obviously meant a lot to you and that is the worst.
Welcome back.... and glad you are here.
-Josephus
I am rather sad as this younger generation coming of age right now, has never known the freedoms I once enjoyed in my own youth. That they don’t know anything different than this security state and that is very troubling.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I am truly sorry to hear of your legal woes and how this has affected you and your standing within an order that the participation and membership of clearly means a lot to you.
Originally posted by Josephus23
Yeah..... What Proto said.
Anyway....
I never thought that I would extend sympathy to someone who was forced out of Freemasonry, but man I am really sorry. This obviously meant a lot to you and that is the worst.
Welcome back.... and glad you are here.
-Josephus
Originally posted by Alethea
Oh my aching ass! What sanctimonious drivel!
I have come to the conclusion that society actually needs these various cults and control groups to police those who justify their belligerent attitudes and actions. Rules, punishments, and peer pressure seem to be tactics that work and they are meant to help you reflect on what you have done that violates the peace and concern for your fellow man.
The problem is that many hard headed people will not ever see where they have failed to be responsible in their actions because they are self-righteous and justify their wrong actions.
Those who want Caesar's privileges and to live in Caesar's society must pay their dues. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
If you are going to drive on Caesar's roads then you play by Caesar's rules. You can't just thumb your nose and make up your own rules. What makes you different from anyone else who must show responsibility that is required? Some of these laws were put into place to teach people to take responsibility for their actions because without a certain amount of rules and enforcement, many people would not bother with being responsible for anything or anybody.
You either come out and be separate or you follow their rules if you want to be on their turf and play the game.
Formed in the Fifties... One of the most influential, secretive, and, it goes without saying, exclusive political clubs in the West... One member contacted by this newspaper said he could not talk about it "even off, off the record". Another simply put the phone down... The source of its funding is a mystery..."
Lo! To me a wise man in the elder days, a wise messenger, told of many special wonders, opened the word-hoard, a wise man with lore. A man wise by books bid with previously spoken words so that I afterwards truly might be able to understand God’s own son (a welcome guest in places) and then in the same way [understand] the weaker, deprived due to sins.
That may be easily understood by each man, he who does not let pride of mind—in this loaned time—obstruct his mind, and in days allow drunkenness to rule where there are many holding a meeting, proud war-smiths in the friend-city.
They sit at the feast, perform true songs, exchange words, discover what strife-place may remain among the mean dwelling in the hall, when wine whets the hearts of men.
Noise mounts up, an outcry in the troop, voices ring variously.
So are minds/spirits divided into portions, are un-alike.
One in over-pride rushes in force, swells inward, for him an unmeasured mind. There are too many like that. That one is all filled by the flying arrows of the enemy, with treacherousness. He cries and cries out, boasts very much of himself, more than the better man, thinks his behavior seems correct to all.
There it will be otherwise, when he finds the result of his hate.
He twists and cheats, thinks much of tricks, lets loose mind-spears, shoots showers.
He then may not know the guilt he has accomplished through hostility. He hates his better, the earl, due to spite, and lets hostile arrows fly through the city wall, the war-seat that his ruler had commanded him to defend.
He sits, feast-proud, overcome by wine, allows his words with skill to fare out, seeking a quarrel, swollen with spite and full of over-pride, with hostility and enmity.
Now you may know, if you meet such a thane in the dwelling place, know a few forth-speakings about this, that this is a child of the enemy wrapped in flesh, has a twisted life, an abyss-eager spirit, is worthless to God.
So that wise one sang, the ready-speaking man, and that sermon performed:
He who himself through pride in the time of hostility, through over-pride, raises himself up through arrogance, he shall become humiliated, after the death-journey, dragged down to dwell fast in suffering, thronged round with worms.
Just as it was long ago in the kingdom of God that over-pride mounted up among the angels, widely famous strife. Wrath rose up, a hard battle-attack. They polluted heaven, hated the one better than them, when they intended to deprive the valor-king of his throne, bereave him of his kingdom, as was not right, and then set in their own judgment in the, in the land of glory.
The father of creation withstood that war; the fight became too grim for them.
But there is for the other a different result, he who here on earth leaves in humility and holds with brotherhood to each other one forever, people among the folk, and loves his enemy, though he has often been angered by him in this world.
He may in the joy of wonder, in the hope of saints, rise up from here to the land of the angels.
It will not be so for the other one, he who lives in sins, in miserable deeds, in pride; it will not be the same for them from the king of glory.
Know you about this. If you meet a humble-minded earl, a thane in the troop, a hoped-for guess, God’s own son, wished for in this world: if the wise one did not lie to me.
Therefore we must always think, remember in mind, the counsel necessary for salvation, each time, remember in each of our hearts the greatest ruler of victories. Amen.