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Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
reply to post by Maxmars
The IRS is a private corporation.
Excuse my ignorance, I've never heard that before.
Do you have a source/link for this?
Contention: The Internal Revenue Service is not an agency of the United States.
Some argue that the IRS is not an agency of the United States but rather a private corporation, because it was not created by positive law (i.e., an act of Congress) and that, therefore, the IRS does not have the authority to enforce the Internal Revenue Code.
The Law: There is a host of constitutional and statutory authority establishing that the IRS is an agency of the United States. The U.S. Supreme Court stated in Donaldson v. United States, 400 U.S. 517, 534 (1971), “[w]e bear in mind that the Internal Revenue Service is organized to carry out the broad responsibilities of the Secretary of the Treasury under § 7801(a) of the 1954 Code for the administration and enforcement of the internal revenue laws.”
Pursuant to section 7801, the Secretary of the Treasury has full authority to administer and enforce the internal revenue laws and has the power to create an agency to enforce such laws. Based upon this legislative grant, the IRS was created. Thus, the IRS is a body established by “positive law” because it was created through a congressionally mandated power. Moreover, section 7803(a) explicitly provides that there shall be a Commissioner of Internal Revenue who shall administer and supervise the execution and application of the internal revenue laws.
In April 2006, a federal district court in Louisiana permanently barred Eddie Ferrand, Glenda F. Elliott, and William N. Kennedy, from preparing tax returns, because they had understated income on their customers’ federal income tax returns based on the frivolous premise, among others, that the IRS is an illegal organization. See www.usdoj.gov...; see also 2006 TNT 75-36.
Originally posted by zerbot565
if you already have free healthcare which i belive every american is entitled to then this "payment" or as id put it extortion of money that goes to a cartel is called racketeering
have a nice day in lalaland
Originally posted by bg_socalif
Take the fine, the $750, though i've read it's $650.
It would be cheaper over the course of a year than a monthly health insurance premium in most of the cases.
Forcing people to buy health insurance is a bunch of BS anyway.
Originally posted by lpowell0627
Originally posted by zerbot565
if you already have free healthcare which i belive every american is entitled to then this "payment" or as id put it extortion of money that goes to a cartel is called racketeering
have a nice day in lalaland
"If you already have free healthcare...."
Can you please explain what you mean by this? The only people in this country that receive "free" anything are those that are considered "poverty level" and in turn get subsidized housing, food, healthcare, etc.
And even I would argue that it's not free. It is most certainly paid for by others.
Originally posted by dariousg
However, the person you are quoting made the assumption that every American was entitled to 'free' healthcare. Maybe this is what you were speaking to? That is a complete farce.
[edit on 24-3-2010 by dariousg]
Originally posted by zerbot565
no one can force you to buy anything from a private company and a private company cant force you to buy anything from an other private company
Originally posted by zerbot565
its called extortion and is very illegal
Originally posted by zerbot565
if you already have free healthcare which i belive every american is entitled to then this "payment" or as id put it extortion of money that goes to a cartel is called racketeering
have a nice day in lalaland
Originally posted by marg6043
Yes I did notice, the veil of ignorance is too thick to deal with, I voted for obama because I believe in hopes and change, I believe on his idea for health care reform I believe that he was going to change the face of the private insurance industry and their racketeering once and for all.
Originally posted by marg6043
But what he did was to give power over our freedoms and choices to them.
Originally posted by marg6043
I have lost my faith on Americas politicians they are nothing but whores to corporate power.
Originally posted by marg6043
Now the talks of all the sweet deals that were behind closed doors are to be including in the final bill this week, yes he signed a bill that was not finished yet, the details of the sweet deals are still sketchy and they are not for our benefit either.