Here's why you consent to nothing....(Police using excessive force!)

Here's why you consent to nothing....

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the video explains itself. Things like this needs to stop. as you can see the guy who was tased, and arrested didn't resist at all. all he did was ask questions about his sobriety test.

[edit on 2/12/2010 by ugie1028]

Yup. These are the ones who give the rest a bad name. It never fails to upset me to see this kind of abuse of power.


...it will get worse however.

I wish this wasn't the result of training and the 'corporate' culture of the law enforcement community..., but it appears to be a more frequent thing.

Sad, sad, sad.

6-8 policemen to arrest a guy driving his mother home.

If they win the day - you got to make em pay at night...
after all what choice do you have but to protect you and your family,.
and paybacks can be a mutha.

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I know. the guy was just taking his mother home. he was cooperating with the police. they bring in 6 guys to arrest someone who was behaving? it made no sense at all. all i can ask is WHY did they act the way they did?

yeah usually these videos end up being in favor of the cops imo. but this one is clearly retarded. the cops should be fired but we know that won't happen.

pepper spraying an 80 yr old woman and tazing that man. hell even arresting him was iffy.

If you are stopped, and pass the sobriety test, ask questions for clarification, and then are told to lie down, I suggest you do sot. BUT, tell them you will press charges, file a civil law suit and demand a copy of the tape from the dashboard cam upon arrival to the station. Then demand a lawyer the moment you arrive.
If nothing else, it may keep you from being tazed.

I think everyone can agree that this is an obviouss case of unnecessary force, i would even call it police brutality. It seems to me that more and more of these cases are popping up. I recall seeing an old women getting tased or maced because she was resisting arrest, and a fourteen year old girl getting tased in the head because the overweight police officer could not chase her down!
is this what these devices were made for? for officers who are not capable of doing their job? you seriously cant handle old ladies and teenage girls?!

Please correct me if I am wrong but i thought these devices were created to prevent the use of deadly force(i.e. a gun) and were to be used only in instances where an officer would otherwise use their firearm.

If tasers and other weapons were used in this fassion you wouldn't get the "i thought it was my taser" deaths such as the young man in baltimore that was shot in the back of the head while lying face down with his hands cuffed behind his back and several police officers holding him.

Its simple, dont pull a taser unless you would pull a gun, dont pull a gun because someone is resisting ( which in the officers eyes can be any movement apparently, making it difficult when officers are pushing you face first into the concrete floor), use these weapons only if your life or the public isin serious jeopardy, and throw all of these crooked cops in jail.

I know people always say thats its a few cops like these that give the rest a bad name, but im sick of the zero accountability. all cops get a bad name when they refuse to punish the ones that are out of line!

im surprised this thread didn't get anymore attention. Is this the state we all want? to be tazed and pepper sprayed for cooperating?

What I like is at one point the cops are yelling simultaneously PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK and DON'T MOVE...how can you comply with contradictory commands, perp must be resisting arrest for sure...

Originally posted by Ozzy Mandias
Please correct me if I am wrong but i thought these devices were created to prevent the use of deadly force(i.e. a gun) and were to be used only in instances where an officer would otherwise use their firearm.

That is what I thought. However, if you happen to catch any of those shows with the videos of arrests and such, you may notice, as I have, that most of the tazering happens to drunk women who simply keep asking "Why are you pulling me over?", while sitting in her vehicle and repeatedly not getting an answer, or people who run off and once they give up and are laying face-down the cops will start shouting "Stop resisting" and then taze them.

I seem to be the only person who thinks this is wrong - everyone else I've watched these programs with think "the dirtbags deserve it".

this just bothers me.... pepper spray a elderly lady, taze for co-operating.
I think I would like to catch him coming out of the grocery store and tazze his fat ass and while he is flopping around like a dead fish .... fill his face with MACE. eye for eye when law is lawless

There's alot of this going on in Canada right now as well, the most famous recently was Robert Dziekanski

RCMP kill Robert Dziekanski

Just so people know how dangerous this man was to the police...

Each of the FOUR officers carries a Berreta 9mm with 2 spare clips, a taser, a collapsable baton, a regular night stick, a sap and pepper spray.

4 officers, armed to the teeth, versus a man with a stapler.

(To head off any claims about there being more to the storey... there is. This case was highly publicized here and the end result was that Robert was a victim of the system totally failing in every way.)

This case is one of the most disgusting I can think of. The coverups, lies and wagon circling were off the scale. (Check it out, this went all the way to the nation's top cop who petitioned for tasers to be included in the RCMP aresenal, then changed his storey to say that he 'suggested' that a study be conducted into the feasibility...)

The police lied about everything, they even tried to press charges against the person who videotaped this because he took the film to a lawyer and then released it to the public.


My point in presenting this is simple...

Robert was one of 3 people killed that week by the RCMP using tasers. No word on the other two, nothing. There was no video tape so the storey very neatly disappeared. No charges against the officers in the other cases, nothing at all.

Why?

The RCMP conduct their own internal investigations.

The best part of all this is that the RCMP in Canada are the equivelant of the FBI in the US, the only real difference is that the RCMP are also used as a local police force in many parts of the country.

EDIT:

One good thing in all of this is that it did demonstrate that Canadain journalists still deserve that title. When the nation's top cop started back peddling on his stance they hit 'play' and showed him his own words from years earlier (the interview ended almost immediately afterwards of course).

Being a socialist nation we are by default further down the spiral than the US, but at least our media isn't completely bought and paid for.

[edit on 12-2-2010 by [davinci]]

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As much as I hate to say it, I think you need to just do what ever they tell you to do and get the hell out of there. At the end of the day they have you by the balls and they know it. The new thing is that they get behind you a bit and have you walk to the side of the police car and then take small steps so it looks like you are walking away. Once you get to the side of their car they beat the crap out of you because you are now out of camera view.

Last year a cop comes to my house and tells me he's looking for some missing neighborhood kid and hes talking to everyone the neighborhood about it to see if anyone's seen anything. OK, I step out on the porch to talk with him and he asks me if he can come in and I tell him no and that he can ask me anything he wants while we're on the porch. He starts asking me why I'm nervous about letting him in my house and what do I had to hide, stuff like that. I tell him that I just don't want him in my house, thats all. I answer his questions.

For the next week he sat outside my house in his cruiser, what ever shift he was on. They had found the kid later that night at a buddy's house, but the entire neighborhood didn't know that. He made it look like I was a suspect in taking that kid and he knew what he was doing.

Just do what ever they tell you to do. It ain't worth it

Cops are dirty scum bags anymore. I was one for years and I can't stand them. That's why I am not now. Things will get worse as long as people keep excepting this behavior. I would not accept this behavior. I would make sure these men regretted breaking the law despite the fact that you'd never get them in trouble via the law. I'd take care of it outside the law. Scum....

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You give some of them a badge and a little authority and they think they are GOD. I'm glad you had enough respect for yourself to get out. You are the type of person that NEEDS to be in there though.