Unknown Alien Species Interstellar Starfleet?

Hope this hasn't already been posted... Basically, the guy is apparently photographing giant interstellar spacecraft. Does anyone else know about this guy photographing this stuff? Is it legitimate? Is it explainable?

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What is this guy photographing? Are these just badly distorted images of galaxies, dust clouds and so on? Or are they something else?

Your thoughts please...

here are a few links that might interest you.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...Hoax
hoax IMOP just satellites
just search "Gridkeeper / John Lenard Walson"

[edit on 7-2-2010 by paradiselost333]

At 3:17 it looks like someone's arm and hand holding a model.

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The fist video is the one I was referring to at 3:17 with the hand holding the model.

I guess that is why it says a film by.

Found this thoug, just to shed some light..
This IS john's own YouTube channel go there and Ask him, then make up your minds, dont listen to every people that say : Bunk or Fake, go ask the horse him self...

www.youtube.com...

ATS HAS DAMAGE JOHN IN SLANDER ACT .
WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW A CRIMINAL ACT ON
THE NET AND MUST STOP IT NOW AND REMOVE ALL FREESPIRITS POST.
ATS CAN BE HELD TO ACCOUNT FOR LETTING SANTIAGO USE THERE WEB PAGE TO SLANDER JOHN LENARD WALSON
All videotape footage and text ©2009 by John Lenard Walson. All Rights Reserved. Copying or Reproduction in any media are prohibited without written permission of John Lenard Walson. SONG CREDIT Jean-Michel Jarre.

i started to film objects in space fact, i try to get help to find out what they were , i ask a Professor Gerry Gilmore fact.
they told me they were space craft fact. look at there emails below fact.
they said go public fact.

now when i did go public i did not know who to ask or trust, i ask around.
people like jose at TBLN.COM and Santiago Yturria Garza, come in to the whole thing and made films and sold them with a small fraction
of my FILMS,I NEVER GOT A CENT NO MONEY. fact santiago got upset WHEN I TRY TO STOP HIM and started problems with me and jose.

this leads to A SMEAR FROM SANTIAGO.

i never give any rights to let Santiago Yturria Garza to do this he made dvds and sold them at ufo conference shows, fact.

i found this out then i try to stop them, fact.

SANTIAGO got upset i was trying to stop them and i found out Santiago Yturria Garza went to a very well known hollywood tv film producer
and made very strange claims with out me knowing to the producer about my films telling him they were alien crafts.

anyway i still try stop the thief taking my films but they got so mad i try to stop them they start a smear against me on Above top secret
this is the information you will find.

they phoned the Professor Gerry Gilmore and email nasa and told them i was nuts and a fake, they got people to make fake tin foil space craft and made films at the end of they garden to look like my films with cams so it looks like my stuff to make look like a fake.

Santiago Yturria Garza, is freespirit on above top secret.

and he will tell you i was a mr gridkeeper and john all the same person but this is not true and will be proved
correct in the feature film coming out.




just remember it was gerry gilmore that say go public not me.
so when people attack me they are also attacking him too.
the above top secret team got there friend Santiago Yturria Garza that is in mexico to take part on ATS in letting freespirit aka Santiago Yturria Garza in his smear against john and MUST stop it now.
THIS IS IN VIDEO INFORMATION.

From:
Gerry Gilmore gilastcamacuk
Sent:
Sun 12: PM
To:
john lenard santamonicajohn
Hi John,
my work address is perfectly safe, thanks.
I wouldn't worry too much about Nasa restricting you or your information.
They are a civilian agency, and astronomers work with them all the time.
Many of my colleagues are indeed nasa staff.
There is of course nothing like posting stuff on the internet if you do
feel restricted.
Gerry

Gerry Gilmore FInstP ScD
Professor of Experimental Philosophy
Institute of Astronomy
From:
Gerry Gilmore gilastcamacuk
Sent:
Sat 2/10/07 2:37 AM
To:
john lenard santamonicajohn
Hi John,
thank you for the moon images: once again they show that you are an
excellent photographer.
There are of course many satellites in orbit, only a few of which are
anything to do with JPL, but these are readily seen by
astro-photographers like yourself all over the world.
You should just enjoy the excellence of your images, and make them
available as widely as is possible, through the public web-sites,
magazines, etc, so you can get the credit you deserve for your skills.
best regards
Gerry
text©2008 by John Lenard Walson. All Rights Reserved.

Sent:Gerry Gilmore gilastcamacuk
Thu 1/18/07 3:37 AM
To:
john lenard ([email protected])

Hello again,

and again my congratulations on your superb astrophotography

You are clearly getting some images at almost the diffraction limit of
your telescope. In the very sharpest images there are hints of diffraction
rings visible on the edges of the satellites. That is of course the
absolute limit of optical performance, and is only rarely attained.
You might also be interested in a journal produced by the
MIT Lincoln Laboratory - which is the group which has built some of the
things you are seeing. Much of what they do is what used to be the
Star wars project, which no doubt involves some of your objects. They
don't talk about the military satellites,
of course, but there are many dicussions of earth surveillance, and
related issues. It is distributed only to academic organisations, so
you may need to get your local library to borrow it, but you
may be able to get this (for free) from
Subscription Coordinator

Gerry
Professor of Experimental Astronomy

i hate to burst the walsons ego, but isnt freedom of speech by american users, of an american website, still a factor, arent people allowed to say what they wish? and isnt ATS still here? hmmmm. besides.. it says jose escamilla... that sucks for walson

Me thinks Walson protesteth too much...

I remember the original threads only too well, there was so much BS being spouted all around but the one thing that became very clear is that Walson / Gridkeeper would NOT reveal how they took these video's bar saying it was an ordinary telescope.

No matter how many times he was asked he simply ignored the request, people also seemed to recognise some of these objects as ordinary household things like screwdrivers but then embellished with filters galore to make them look alien...

He says it wasn't for cash but we only have his word for it and personally I don't trust a word he says..

As far as I'm concerned it's a pure media hoax with some attempt to make from it..

i couple of these i will admit DO look like satellites, but there are alot there that do not resemble satellites at all.
look at the picture of the ISS, alot of the other picture are much bigger than the ISS, so your saying that these images are of sateillites that are bigger than the ISS.
I find that hard to believe.

but this gets me thinking, if this guy is so good at taking picture of stuff in space, maybe he should be the one to goto to get an picture of that mysterious object in orbit that no-one has managed to get a picture of the last known 4 times it has flew by. www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Glowing ether anomalies.
Don't look alien or man made.
Can't say if locations were ever verified.
Or the phenomena verified except there is a big reason
the ether can't be verified.

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G'day the.lights

If you do some reading including previous extensive threads on ATS, you'll find Walson is a hoaxer.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by stanlee
i hate to burst the walsons ego, but isnt freedom of speech by american users, of an american website, still a factor, arent people allowed to say what they wish? and isnt ATS still here? hmmmm. besides.. it says jose escamilla... that sucks for walson

Grow up... American users American web site.. you sound a lot like wait for it.........

AL GORE ....are you 2 related Ha Ha

last I looked it was a world wide web... do you have information
J Walson is not in contact with Jose. and Jose being a film director in his own right who do you know that Jose did not produce images of J Walson and other peoples finds in the video.


Now that sucks for you does it not.....

Ocker



[edit on 11/2/2010 by ocker]

[edit on 11/2/2010 by ocker]

Mr Walson's photography has been dissected ad nauseum on ATS and a hoax tag pinned to it all. I have myself determined the basic principle behind the creation of such images and made similar stuff using a Meade 10 inch Schmidt-Cassegraine telescope.

I found this page interesting: Tim Printy's Website:

WG3

Originally posted by waveguide3
Mr Walson's photography has been dissected ad nauseum on ATS and a hoax tag pinned to it all. I have myself determined the basic principle behind the creation of such images and made similar stuff using a Meade 10 inch Schmidt-Cassegraine telescope.

I found this page interesting: Tim Printy's Website:

WG3

G'day waveguide3

Thanks for linking to Printy's website.

It will make for some interesting reading.

He's a bit of a hard case!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
Thanks for linking to Printy's website.
It will make for some interesting reading.
He's a bit of a hard case!

Hoaxfinder General I'd say: Some Printy Research

WG3