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Topic started on 3-11-2009 @ 02:17 AM by Lunatyx
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I found this article yesterday and thought I would post it here to see what you all think. I did a search here on ATS but couldn't find anything
related so...
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Something amazing has been discovered in an area of South Africa, about 150 miles inland, west of the port of Maputo. It is the remains of a huge
metropolis that measures, in conservative estimates, about 1500 square miles. It's part of an even larger community that is about 10,000 square miles
and appears to have been constructed -- are you ready -- from 160,000 to 200,000 BCE!
And Google Earth coordinates :
Carolina -- 25 55' 53.28" S / 30 16' 13.13" E
Badplaas -- 25 47' 33.45" S / 30 40' 38.76" E
Waterval -- 25 38' 07.82" S / 30 21' 18.79" E
Machadodorp -- 25 39' 22.42" S / 30 17' 03.25" E
I took a look myself and found some quite interesting formations and ruines...
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 03:09 AM by Jomina
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1500 square MILES?
Holy cow that's huge.
Well, thanks for bringing this up, that's, if true, some really MAJOR information.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 03:49 AM by ChemBreather
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and appears to have been constructed -- are you ready -- from 160,000 to 200,000 BCE!
Just amazing, the exact time they say the anunnaki where here making humans, I am soo exited... 
Monkeys build it ?? 
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 04:02 AM by ChemBreather
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Heheh, page 3 (Edit from 2), they drew the same conclusion, in away, I hope this soon gets blown wide open..
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Who made the metropolis? Why?
It would seem that humans have always valued gold. It is even mentioned in the Bible, describing the Garden of Eden's rivers:
Genesis 2:11 -- The name of the first [river] is Pishon; it flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold.
South Africa is known as the largest gold producing country of the world. The largest gold producing area of the world is Witwatersrand, the same
region where the ancient metropolis is found. In fact nearby Johannesburg, one of the best known cities of South Africa, is also named "Egoli" which
means the city of gold.
It seems highly probable that the ancient metropolis was established because of its proximity to the largest supply of gold on the planet. But why
would ancient people work so hard to mine gold? You can't eat it. It's too soft to use for tool making. It isn't really useful for anything except
ornaments and its physical beauty is on a par with other metals like copper or silver. Exactly why was gold so important to early homo sapiens?
To explore the answer we need to look at the period of history in question -- 160,000 to 200,000 years BCE -- and learn what was happening on planet
Earth.
What were humans like 160,000 years ago?
Modern humans, homo sapiens, can trace our ancestry back through time to a point where our species evolved from other, more primitive, hominids.
Scientists do not understand why this new type of human suddenly appeared, or how the change happened, but we can trace our genes back to a single
female that is known as "Mitochondrial Eve".
Mitochondrial Eve (mt-mrca) [Right: An artist's rendition] is the name given by researchers to the woman who is defined as the matrilineal most
recent common ancestor (MRCA) for all currently living humans. Passed down from mother to offspring, all mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in every living
person is derived from this one female individual. Mitochondrial Eve is the female counterpart of Y-chromosomal Adam, the patrilineal most recent
common ancestor, although they lived at different times.
Mitochondrial Eve is believed to have lived between 150,000 to 250,000 years BP, probably in East Africa, in the region of Tanzania and areas to the
immediate south and west. Scientists speculate that she lived in a population of between perhaps 4000 to 5000 females capable of producing offspring
at any given time. If other females had offspring with the evolutionary changes to their DNA we have no record of their survival. It appears that we
are all descendants of this one human female.
Mitochondrial Eve would have been roughly contemporary with humans whose fossils have been found in Ethiopia near the Omo River and at Hertho.
Mitochondrial Eve lived significantly earlier than the out of Africa migration which might have occurred some 60,000 to 95,000 years ago.
[right] The region in Africa where one can find the greatest level of mitochondrial diversity (green) and the region anthropologists postulated the
most ancient division in the human population began to occur (light brown). The ancient metropolis in located in this latter (brown) region which also
corresponds to the estimated age when the genetic changes suddenly happened.
Could this be a coincidence?
Ancient Sumerian history describes the ancient metropolis and its inhabitants!
I'll be honest with you. This next part of the story is difficult to write. It's so shocking that the average person will not want to believe it. If
you are like me, you'll want to do the research yourself, then allow some time for the facts to settle in your mind.
We are often made to believe that the Egyptians -- the Pharoahs and pyramids -- are where our known history begins. The oldest dynasties go back some
3200 years BP. That's a long time ago. But the Sumerian civilization, in what is now Iraq, is much older. What's more, we have translated many of
their history tablets, written in cuneiform and earlier scripts so we know a lot about their history and legends.
The seal image [above] depicts the legend of the "Great Flood" which consumed mankind. Many Sumerian legends are strikingly similar to Genesis. Like
Genesis, the Sumerian legend, Atrahasis, tells the story of the creation of modern humans -- not by a loving God -- but by beings from another planet
who needed "slave workers" to help them mine gold on their extra-planetary expedition!
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 04:29 AM by Emerald The Paradigm
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Sigh...guess somethings never change...money lovers:
The area is significant for one striking thing -- gold. "The thousands of ancient gold mines discovered over the past 500 years, points to a vanished
civilization that lived and dug for gold in this part of the world for thousands of years," says Tellinger.
What we need to do is find the ROOTS of humanity where we all lived to be 1,000 years old, instantly heal each other, fly, etc.
The day WILL come.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 04:41 AM by moocowman
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Thought this video would interest you in relation to gold, I would however recommend the book should the video pique your interest.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 04:45 AM by Geladinhu
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This is fascinating to say the least! I've been wondering when they would start finding new evidence to improve our current accepted anthropological
theories that in my opinion are made of flaws and incoherences.
This looks like it! Big missing piece of the puzzle.
Could anyone post some images from Google Earth? Im unable to acces Google Earth from where I'm at. I would appreciate it very much.
reply to post by Emerald The Paradigm
I think everything changes and indeed is bound to change.
Some day we will learn. Or are we going to remain completely negligent to the fact that we as humans exist for thousands of years and in these
thousands of years that we are totally driven by greed and accumulation of wealth we have been destroyed and vanquished over and over?
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 05:00 AM by Naeem82
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fascinating find, the boundaries of our human past keep going further backwards.. 200,000 bc is A LONG TIME!
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 05:18 AM by Essan
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And the evidence for the age of this structures is ...... ?
Presumably the date is based on when the soap opera space aliens were supposed to have landed here to dig for gold with their super advanced stone
axes and antler picks
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 05:34 AM by m4ng4n
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Still the hypotesis is more than interesting.
I don´t believe for a minute that our civilization is the first here on earth.
6000 years old?(Ours)
....to many lose ends!
This makes perfect sence concidering the spheres wich also where found in South Africa.
www.talkorigins.org...
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 05:35 AM by serbsta
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I'm failing to find any other source verifying these findings other than viewzone, which in itself seems a very 'sketchy' source in some
respects.
It's part of an even larger community that is about 10,000 square miles and appears to have been constructed -- are you ready -- from 160,000 to
200,000 BCE!
What method of dating did they use to conclude this?
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 05:41 AM by wiser3
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The problem that I have with this report is the following:
"Maputo, formerly Lourenço Marques/Lourenzo Marques, is the capital and largest city of Mozambique."
Maputo is not and never has been in South Africa!
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 05:54 AM by serbsta
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Google search here: www.google.com.au...:en-US  fficial&client=firefox-a
Results, here:
Mozambique — Capital: Maputo
According to www.concern.net...
Here:
Maputo is the Mozambique Capital with a plenty of wonders for the tourists.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 06:01 AM by deltaalphanovember
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According to the article - 150 miles west of Maputo.
Also mentioned are google earth coordinates:
Carolina -- 25 55' 53.28" S / 30 16' 13.13" E
Badplaas -- 25 47' 33.45" S / 30 40' 38.76" E
Waterval -- 25 38' 07.82" S / 30 21' 18.79" E
Machadodorp -- 25 39' 22.42" S / 30 17' 03.25" E
There are all small towns in South Africa.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 06:23 AM by dallas18
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Very interesting, hopefully there will be a better source. Ya never know, considering how old it is they could use this in the anticipated
'disclosure' of ancient aliens on earth. That would seem like a more easing way to introduce ET to population.
I have taken some closer screen shots of the coordinates.
General overview:
Zoom on all 4 coords:
This i thought was pretty cool, it near the far right location, it looks like a face in the circle possible kissing something else. Wonder what it is!
It's only about 2300ft wide:
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 06:57 AM by jdmjam
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Thats a great find, Why hasn't the international news jumped on something as big this?
Are they being hushed?
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:03 AM by illuminatislave
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This is interesting but there needs to be more sources to confirm the actual dating of this site
If this is true...  
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:14 AM by hdchop
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Originally posted by ChemBreather
reply to post by Lunatyx
and appears to have been constructed -- are you ready -- from 160,000 to 200,000 BCE!
Just amazing, the exact time they say the anunnaki where here making humans, I am soo exited... 
Monkeys build it ?? 
As well - what was the civilization doing there??? - "GOLD Mines" all around!! - Hmmmm WOW - Just WOW -
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:45 AM by Movhisattva
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If you read further into the article (link below the page) they explain how it was dated by
comparing the so called 'Adam's calendar' stones with
the position of Orion's belt...
I'm not gonna state an opinion on the reliability of this dating method, but anyway a beautiful find. S&F for bringing this to attention, thanks!
I've read other testimonies that speak of civilizations going back this far in time - in my opinion me it's certainly plausible...
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:51 AM by moocowman
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As well - what was the civilization doing there??? - "GOLD Mines" all around!! - Hmmmm WOW - Just WOW -
Check out the video I posted earlier in the thread, Lawrence Gardner is proposing something very very interesting in relation to gold and its'
uses.
To my mind one of the most important questions he asks is where is all the gold why is there so little in circulation, what he alludes to as an answer
is quite astounding.
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