Alien captured on film in 1930's Alaska

Originally posted by drac88
Did it ever occur to anyone that Extra Terrestrials might have the ability to make it 'certain' that they never appear in anyone's photographs? The powers they embody go beyond what we can even comprehend. I seriously doubt anyone's EVER gotten a candid photo of an alien.

And 'verylowfrequency', that picture you posted up there... well... I think you just see what you want to see in that.

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So they have the ability to detect anytime someone is trying to get them on video or photographs?

You're grasping for straws with that one. Just looking for an excuse to explain why most images or video are low quality.

I'm a believer and even I'm not buying that one.

On the right side of the pictures in the front of the trees close to the road can someone zoom in and see if you see like a tall alien looking figure. Sorry I am terrible at enlarging, cutting, etc....

Originally posted by nightmare_david

Originally posted by drac88
Did it ever occur to anyone that Extra Terrestrials might have the ability to make it 'certain' that they never appear in anyone's photographs? The powers they embody go beyond what we can even comprehend. I seriously doubt anyone's EVER gotten a candid photo of an alien.

And 'verylowfrequency', that picture you posted up there... well... I think you just see what you want to see in that.

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So they have the ability to detect anytime someone is trying to get them on video or photographs?

You're grasping for straws with that one. Just looking for an excuse to explain why most images or video are low quality.

I'm a believer and even I'm not buying that one.

Well, I never said anything has to be high quality. I realize how difficult it is to capture a UFO and I'm content with watching low rez vids. Don't get me wrong.
All I'm saying is that Aliens seem to never really leave their craft and walk around for any reason, I mean why would they? Not to mention they would only want to be seen by those who are worthy of handling them, or those who are in tune with cosmic consciousness. If you go out into a group and try to summon extra terrestrials, and you have just 1 person in that group who isn't spiritually grounded, the UFO will be very hesitant on making its appearance. But for a being to actually leave its craft and walk around, you'd have to be really grounded, and skilled at communicating in the cosmic consciousness or else I don't think they'd ever show themselves.

Why do people assume that if aliens are real they are new age hippies?

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Because aliens are actually time travellers from a future where all the Conservative fatcats have polluted themselves to death, and they're what's left.

Originally posted by zaiger
Why do people assume that if aliens are real they are new age hippies?

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I'm not sure if you're commenting on my posts or not, but if you are:

1. The term 'new age hippy' doesn't really have any relevance to what I was talking about, at all. In fact that was an uneducated assumption and I'm trying to have a serious conversation here. That statement adds nothing to the conversation.

2. I'm not 'assuming' anything. Every word of what I've said has come from extensive research on the subject and the last thing I would ever do is simply 'assume' something and then try to back it up. That would be wasteful of everyone's time, and that is not why I post on these boards.

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Intelligent aliens as a whole have yet to be proven as both real, and visiting Earth. You're projecting your own opinion onto how you believe intelligent aliens who are visiting Earth would behave. That would qualify as an assumption.

How about we prove intelligent aliens exist before we decide to make up how they behave?

Well I'm not even making assumptions and these aren't just my opinions. You can find that their behavior actually has been recorded before. I mean let's look at all the evidence - to say that human beings and extra terrestrials have never made contact is to pay no heed to tons of evidence that can easily be uncovered by just doing a little research.

The Disclosure Project, to take a cheap shot at an example.

EDIT: And also this:
CSETI Applications

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I don't know if I did this right, but if I did you should see a picture. If the picture is there does it look like anything to the rest of you. If the picture is not there than just ignore me

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please define "cosmic consciousness" and some proof you have of cosmic consciousness and ETs based on your extensive research. While you get that information for us I will let CNN know proof of aliens is on the way.

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Is that the picture with the alien taken out?

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Originally posted by drac88
Did it ever occur to anyone that Extra Terrestrials might have the ability to make it 'certain' that they never appear in anyone's photographs? The powers they embody go beyond what we can even comprehend. I seriously doubt anyone's EVER gotten a candid photo of an alien.

And 'verylowfrequency', that picture you posted up there... well... I think you just see what you want to see in that.

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No, it did not... but it is a convenient explanation.

Is this one of their incomprehensible powers?

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With pleasure. Well, I'll do my best.
Now right off the bat I can tell you that my answer will not satisfy you. If 'proof' is what you desire, you need to decide what your idea of 'proof' is. There are some things that just cannot be proven with words as you just have to experience them yourself. Achieving higher states of consciousness is the best example. Something that we know is possible, but will your concept of 'proof' ever be able to be applied? I can't show you physical evidence, I can just talk about different accounts that I find to be credible and plausible.

The term 'cosmic consciousness' - Basically to be on par with this state of mind is to simply recognize our universal unity and shared inner powers as conscious beings, and then use that to go to the next level. I'm talking about meditation, out of body experiences, psychic development, strengthening of intuition, etc. But once you're able to leave your body and explore these inner dimensions, you'll see that contact with beings is very common. And the deeper you go, the stranger and more profound your experiences will be. A particularly great book that does this subject justice is 'Adventures Beyond The Body' by Will Buhlman. Great read. You won't regret it.

Anyway, the connection of all this with the ETs is a bit difficult to comprehend. Like I said I'll do my best. Basically once you realize that you can achieve inter-dimensional contact with entities, well what's stopping you from doing this with physical beings of a higher intelligence? (ETs) I mean the universe could be endless for all we know, it could be one big loop as well! ETs who have traveled great distances to get here are still part of the same universal conscious unit as those beings from other dimensions. Or maybe the ETs aren't from very far away at all, just different points in time, or different dimensions within our area in the universe. There are so many possibilities but the same conclusion arises. We are all connected. And once you learn your true nature and leave your body you will immediately see that.

I hope this answers your question. Again, please don't ask me for 'proof' on subjects like this. I can't prove anything. All I can give you is data - Data that I've found to be credible and extremely truthful. Proving that data to be true is literally impossible. Unless you want me to strap a camera on my brain and video tape an out of body experience or being contact. It's just not something that will ever be provable. But definitely check that book out it's quite an amazing read. Good prices on amazon too.

No explanation for this -

Summary:

On April 5, 1959, at the Anglican mission village at Boianai, Papua, New Guinea, one of the most well-documented cases of alien visitation began. At this time in history, this village was a territory of Australia. The Australian Anglican Church had sent Father William Booth Gill to lead the mission. He would be the main subject of a series of UFO sightings with alien beings.

Light on Mount Pudi:

Reverend Gill, highly respected by the Church, was well-liked by his colleagues. Gill was a skeptical man where UFOs were concerned, and certainly not looking for them. His hands were full running the mission. The first hint of alien contact would take place on April 5. Gill, while scanning the landscape, saw a light on uninhabited Mount Pudi. The light, states Gill, moved extremely fast.

Inverted Saucer-Shaped Object:

During the summer of 1957, Gill's assistant Stephen Moi reported to him that he had observed an "inverted saucer-shaped object" which was hovering above the mission. Gill thought nothing of it at the time. The report, though quickly dismissed, would at least turn their attention to the skies above, readying them for what was to come-direct contact with alien beings.

The Size of 5 Full Moons:

On June 26, Father Gill again saw a bright light to his northwest. Evidently, rumors of the previous sighting by Moi had spread among the villagers, and soon they were beside Gill, watching the light above. Sworn statements of this event listed 38 individual witnesses who saw a disc-shaped UFO the size of 5 full moons strung together. The UFO had four legs, like landing gear, but was high in the sky.

Four Human-Like Beings:

An enormous object was hovering over the mission. Soon, four beings, similar to humans, emerged from the object. They appeared to be working on something on their ship. The beings would go inside the object, and then soon return, as if fetching tools. At regular intervals, a blue light shone up above the UFO. This craft was visible for 45 minutes, vanishing at 7:30 P.M.

25 Observers Witness Event:

Forty-five minutes later, many of the witnesses remained, still pondering the sight they had seen. Soon, several objects smaller than the previous UFO would appear in the sky. About 20 minutes afterward, the first UFO was back in view. The sighting of the larger UFO would last four hours, as witnesses would come and go. Twenty-five witnesses signed their testimony to the sighting. A heavy cloud cover ended the event.

Beings Working on Object:

Incredibly, the next night the giant disc-shaped UFO returned at 6:00 PM. Two of the smaller objects flanked it. Father Gill, with many of the witnesses from the night before, watched the unbelievable sight. Father Gill's statement concerning the sighting:

"On the large one, two of the figures seemed to be doing something near the center of the deck. They were occasionally bending over and raising their arms as though adjusting or "setting up" something.

Being Waves Back:

"One figure seemed to be standing, looking down at us."

Gill then waved at one of the creatures. "To our surprise the figure did the same. Ananias waved both arms over his head-then the two outside figures did the same. Ananias and myself began waving our arms, and all four seemed to wave back. There seemed no doubt that our movements were answered... "

Object Moves Away:

This exchange of waves continued for some time. One witness, Eric Kodawara waved a torch at the beings, and they waved back. Gill left the group briefly to eat, but when he returned, the object and beings were still there. This time they were farther away. There was a church service at 7:45 PM, and afterwards, the UFO was gone.

Analysis of Event:

The series of alien contacts in Papua, New Guinea, seem like something from a science fiction movie. However, the reputation of Father Gill cannot be overlooked, and there is no reason to think he and the other witnesses were lying or hallucinatin

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I see your point. And much like how you're unable to prove the miraculous powers you have, I can't prove that I can fly, see through walls, and create bacon out of lead, because my powers don't work when anyone else is watching either.

When you say "Something that we know is possible." you are flat out wrong. We don't. You seem to, but since it's you and only you, and there's no verifiable way we can experience the events exactly as you describe them, we can only assume that your perceptions of the world are skewed. That's called delusion.

Maybe that seems harsh, but I can tell you that I've achieved "higher consciousness" as well, through the use of psychedelic drugs. That experience taught me one important fact: The human senses and perceptions can not be trusted. While I may have sworn up and down that the lights in the room I was in were pulsing rhythmically with the sounds of the music that was playing, they weren't. While I would have sworn the girls on the balcony below me had the same conversation three times, exactly the same each time, they didn't. I saw it all as real and true, but I was wrong.

If you can't recreate the experience, and somehow prove it in a manner that it can be scientifically examined, there's no reason for anyone else to believe it happened anywhere but inside your own head.

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You're still basing the term 'proof' on false bases.

What I've explained isn't my own personal delusion simply because its based on credible data that I've clearly given sources for. If you're unwilling to give my information a chance, than that's your problem.

I too have experimented with psychedelic drugs. Actually, I'm in my final year of college right now and all I can say is that they've only but assisted in my acknowledgment of altered states of consciousness. Like I said in my previous post, I'm really not trying to prove anything because nothing can really be proven. Our senses are nothing. That's why the act of trying to prove facts like these is really just futile.

Either way, your second paragraph really just baffled me. You're acting like I came up with all the information I'm stating while it's clearly attainable through well written literature and concisely recorded data. And yes you are FULLY able to experience the events I describe because you my friend are a human being. You are fully capable of practicing out-of-body techniques and hopefully mastering them so you can explore the inner dimensions of the universe - therefore verifying these claims for yourself. But only for yourself. Which is exactly the predicament I'm in right now. I know for a fact that this knowledge is real but I can't really convince anyone until they strive for it themselves.

This is of the utmost importance - Practice out-of-body techniques. It is every human being's destiny. It will shed light on the meaning of life, it will shed light on our purpose as conscious beings. I'm not saying this to try and outsmart anyone, and the last thing I want to do is argue with my fellow people. I'm sharing my knowledge in hopes to better humanity. I truly believe this is a priority for every human being.

Well truth and proof are two things that can only be there for an individual. What is true for you may not be true for the next fellow. Well i do believe in OBEs through meditation and other practices, ( stable and out of body would probably be the best condition a person could be in) i believe that "encounters" could be interpreted as alien/angels/deamons/self what they are we will not know till many people reach this state.

Good morning one and all!

I would just like to pipe in here and say that I am truly appreciative of all of the response that this thread has generated thus far. However.........

I would just like to gently remind everyone that it is vital to keep things civil and "On Topic" concerning only the things outlined in the OP. This is also duly appreciated and keeps things flowing in a scholarly manner so that all may have a clearer view of the topic at hand without any peripheral distractions.

If one does not have anything more to contribute to this thread and it's info pertaining to the OP, I respectfully ask that you either U2U the individual you wish to converse with off topic or start another thread in the appropriate board.

As far as this thread and it's OP are concerned, I think it has gone as far as it can go unless something pertinent and relevant to said OP should become available.

Thank you all for your understanding.

Cheers,

Erik