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Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by tauristercus
Well I would think guarding the HE3 shipments from the mining operations would be a priority, though most of those ships are robots...
As to a list of names, ranks and positions of those 'non-terrestrial' officers, well Gary got just a glimpse of those and he is going to jail for life...
It wouldn't be a SECRET space corps if you knew about it
Your 'desire' to know is not worth it
There are some operations on one of Jupiter's moons but I have no data suggesting that is a Navy operation.
Now then for more specific details I could tell you about theCLASSIFIED and what is REALLY going on behind CLASSIFIED and how the 'visitors' from CLASSIFIED are involved... but that would take some time
Originally posted by hoghead cheese
Some of those pics don't explain the space vehicles that are being seen through the telescope by a vid camera. Some of those crafts where rotating in the center and one video showed 2 of them come together to dock it seems. I believe that we have had a presence on the moon for years and that this cadre of officers and civilians are part of the program. I was wondering if anybody can find this particular pdf file or pics of a 1960's discussion paper by the military and the govt. showing the military actually on the moon and operating on the moon. It showed and described ships actually landed on them moon with living quarters and labs dug partially in the regolith and also under it on the moon. I'll try to find it but it showed really good detail and how it will be done. What happens alot of times in the US is that sometimes documents that where briefing papers tend to be used as a process (if an organization doesn't use a briefing paper it may be using another submitted or use the one presented but altered a bit.).
Originally posted by Sam60
All that material was a hoax.
Originally posted by zorgon
Now why don't you add something constructive for a change and help ID this cockpit (always wondered why they called it that )
files.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by weedwhacker
I'll look more, but maybe the guy who took the picture may know???
Originally posted by tauristercus obviously the one best suited to answer my questions based on his "extensive" NSC research.
I tend to think my questions are perfectly legitimate as his thread revolves around the existance of a clandestine military organization that most of us have not heard about ... that is, until he made mention of it in this thread ... and the "secret astronaut" corp that he has alluded to, in the process.
Now, you all may be quite thrilled, ecstatic, amazed, (insert your own suitable adjective here) regarding the hardware being displayed BUT I'm sure that I'm not the ONLY one who is far more interested in the actual role and mission that the NSC ... and it's "secret astronauts" ... have performed in the past, and also currently. I feel that's a heck of a lot more important to know then discussing whether a piece of aeronautical hardware produces a visible effect when hitting Mach speeds.
Secondly ... yes, I HAVE read the site but while there is a reference to a "Naval Space Command", I have seen NO reference whatsoever to a "Navy Space Command" as Zorgon mentions multiple times.
Am I perhaps, to assume that Zorgon went to the trouble of compiling this huge ensemble of evidence to showcase the existance of this military organization with it's secret agenda and it's secret astronauts ... and then goes and completely stuffs up the name of this organization ??
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by kinda kurious
"Howell M. Estes III"? Of the Estes model rocket company fame?
Coincidence???
www.estesrockets.com...
FLIGHT INFORMATION
Rating: Command pilot
Flight hours: More than 4,500
Aircraft flown: A-7, F-4, F-16, F-117 and EC-135
Originally posted by tauristercus
Source please to substantiate that such mining operations have been or are currently being conducted.
From: Guy Cramer
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:47 PM
To: John Lear
Subject: [Redacted]
[Redacted]
I've spoken with Dr. Larry Taylor, director of UT’s Planetary Geosciences Institute in Knoxville, Gerald Kulcinski, Director of the Fusion Technology Institute (FTI) at the University of Wisconsin at Madison and Harrison Schmitt, Chairman Of Interlune-Intermars Initiative, Inc. and Apollo 17 Astronaut regarding Helium 3 data, although we never got as far as discussing an extraction process....
Your comment on 'liquifying' minerals on the moon is 'right on time'. Our group, presently, is engaged in deep discussion as to modifying the minerals to be harvested, and liquifying (H3, for example) is/has been the subject of much heated discussion. Actually, I suggested (to our group) not so much 'liquifying' ...but 'changing the state' . If you look at some of my patents...you'll note that in these I teach 'change of state' (from liquid to a gas, for example) to accomplish some desired result: Entropy vs Enthalpy, for example. The discussions continue as of this writing, with all suggestions being considered by our group (and others) prior to making recommendations to those within and outside our group.
ABSTRACT
A method and apparatus are provided for delivering lunar generated fluid to Earth orbit from lunar orbit. Transport takes place in an external tank of a shuttle which has been suitably outfitted in Earth orbit for reusable travel between Earth orbit and a lunar orbit. The outfitting of the external tank includes the adding of an engine, an electrical system, a communication system, a guidance system, an aerobraking device, and a plurality of interconnected fluid storage tanks to the hydrogen and oxygen tanks of the external tank. The external tank is then propelled to lunar orbit the first time using Earth based propellant. In lunar orbit, the storage tanks are filled with the lunar generated fluid with the remainder tank volumes filled with lunar generated liquid oxygen and hydrogen which serve as propellants for returning the tank to Earth orbit where the fluid is off-loaded. The remaining lunar generated oxygen and hydrogen is then sufficient to return the external tank to lunar orbit so that a subsequent cycle of fluid delivery is repeated. A space station in a higher Earth orbit is preferably used to outfit the external tank, and a lunar node in lunar orbit is used to store and transfer the fluid and liquid oxygen and hydrogen to the external tank. The lunar generated fluid is preferably 3He.
On the mining-thing. I can only state that in the broadest of senses mining operations have taken place on the lunar surface and are presently being conducted on Mars (and continue on a micro-scale, on the Moon). Although the use of terminology, 'mining' has been downplayed (by NASA) and there exists an 'internal memo' ....
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Use of terminology, e.g., 'mining', could be considered (by some countries) to constitute a violation of the International Space Treaty. Thus, NASA is real-careful about use of terminology that could be considered a breach of 'Policy and Protocol'. I can give you this stuff as it's 'public information'. You have to look between the spaces/lines for more info and draw your own conclusions.
To what use is the HE3 being put ? Nuclear fusion ? Propellent ? Other ?