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Originally posted by silver6ix
reply to post by NavalFC
Once again what was your point?
Specialty waivers are listed in the US NAVY regs. Makes perfect sense. What does it matter that every person has a specialilty. A WAIVER is an exception and id imagine an exception applied for under ground of specialty would probably be under the grounds that they couldnt afford to lose him or her at that time, or were under manned in that specialty, same as in any other waiver condition.
You swear a lot but you dont seem to rationalise anything.
As for being an officer, yes there are sevral ways you can become an officer, you can apply for it, you can be recommended for it, you can be field promoted, any of the three can happen with or without a degree.
You can also complete colledge degree modules while serving which count for it?
Do you KNOW the mans educational status? Do you have any way to assert that in all those years he couldnt very reasonably and very easily achieved the qualifications he needed while serving? No, you dont know ANY of the facts.
Again, theres nothing you are stating here which proves or debunks those facts. He COULD very easily have done all the things stated.
Originally posted by silver6ix
reply to post by NavalFC
Actually nobody has said the "believe it". What most people have said is YOU havent derailed it.
If you want to debunk it fine, find a valid and genuine reason and do so, all you have done is make aesthetic points and curse and swear and insist it proves your case, im sorry but it doesnt prove your case, all it shows me is that you are not credible.
Whether or not the persons story was true, I wouldnt know, I havent paid any attention to it and im sure those investigating the truth of the matter will come to their own conclusions in time.
This doesnt mean your statements have disproven anything.
Your statements are little more than disinformation designed to destroy his case, not a valid disproving of a point.
Originally posted by silver6ix
reply to post by NavalFC
It didnt say he had hair, or two legs but yes im assuming thats possible. Im not stating he DID im stating he COULD easily have had and with that being the case your points do NOT rule out his validity. Thats really as simple as it gets.
YOU are the one trying to prove categorically a point and im simply pointing out you dont have the information to do so, theres a perfectly easy simple way all of that there could be true.
Originally posted by nfotech
Look I'll try this one more time with a lot of reservations...
Naval:
You are basing your issues of the case on a civilian writing an article and trying to describe a meeting where an alleged Navy officer is presenting his credentials.
The problem is you are crucifying the Alleged Navy Officer based on the civilian's lack of understanding of proper Navy terminology and failing to explain how this officer's career is possible vs. what you know from your experience.
It's like comparing apples to oranges.
Hopefully Macabee will provide verification to Jeff, if he does so you'll then have to figure out how to impeach Macabee's Navy experience.
Maybe you're like me and you read "super fast" which causes you to miss a few fine points now and then. I apologize for insulting your reading comprehension. I may have given the impression I was questioning your intelligence which was not my intention. I was trained to speed read in grade school which causes me to miss certain details if I'm not careful. I also tend to write lengthy posts which can be difficult to read all the way through. For those things, I apologize.
You have skipped over a few fine details which call into question your analysis of the case. I'm not saying your wrong about it being BS, I'm just saying your missing the better reasons for wondering. It is my opinion that it is too soon to call the entire story BS, however. That rides almost entirely on my impression that Macabee met with and verified Source A. I do believe there is some agenda which wants UFO researchers to believe in this case, for what purpose is the big question.
[edit on 29-10-2008 by nfotech]
Some of the details could be given away as civilian not knowing such as the uniforms yes, but some cant, such as the officer claiming to be an electronics warfare specialist. Naval officers do not specialize, so even claiming to have a specialty puts question onto the claim.
But it does hwoeevr lend credence to the enlisted confused for officer story, seeing as how Electronics Warefare Specialist IS a enlisted specialty, ell it was until 2003-2004 when cryptological technicans took over their job and that specialty was eliminated.
Originally posted by Europa733
Well, well, well,
Let me take a wild guess, the OP (NavalFC)'s name is in fact Tim Pr----
Isn't it ?
If you are, I really enjoy what you do in Ufology, and if you are not who I think
you may be, Tim would be proud of you.
Cheers,
Europa aka Buck
[edit on 30-10-2008 by Europa733]
Originally posted by silver6ix
Some of the details could be given away as civilian not knowing such as the uniforms yes, but some cant, such as the officer claiming to be an electronics warfare specialist. Naval officers do not specialize, so even claiming to have a specialty puts question onto the claim.
But it does hwoeevr lend credence to the enlisted confused for officer story, seeing as how Electronics Warefare Specialist IS a enlisted specialty, ell it was until 2003-2004 when cryptological technicans took over their job and that specialty was eliminated.
Yes but once again, since he claimed to join the Navy well before 2003, as ive said repeated times, he could easily have joined as Enlisted and been an Electronic Warfare Specialist.
Once again, you prove nothing, he said he showed and ALBUM proving he WAS (past tense, been through this before also) an Electronics Warfare Specialist, which yes, could easily have been true because it WAS a specialty during his years in the Navy.
The only thing in question here is your refusal to accept you have absolutely nothing to go on what so ever.