Australia trials national net filters

meh..we will always find a way around this type of censorship..

Let them lock me up for visiting a banned porn site & watch them get booted out at the next election. Their loss.

Originally posted by Nonchalant
Let them lock me up for visiting a banned porn site & watch them get booted out at the next election. Their loss.

EXACTLY!!! I think the fact that Johnny Howard wasn't only kicked out of office, he lost his Shire too, is perfect proof of what the Aussie public is prepared to do to keep our freedom.

I hope our 'elected representatives' are watching this thread. We will not take this lying down. If you want to mess with our freedom then you are going to have one hell of a fight on your hands!

Originally posted by Kryties

EXACTLY!!! I think the fact that Johnny Howard wasn't only kicked out of office, he lost his Shire too, is perfect proof of what the Aussie public is prepared to do to keep our freedom.

Correct. The Aussie public is an unpredictable bunch. We sit back and we take what we're dished out but cross us where our freedoms & rights are concerned and you will pay. Over time politicians become complacent & forget this fact while they ride the wave of popularity, but we the public dont forget. I love Australian democracy and I love the way we exact vengeance on our elected government. Many of us have no loyalty to political parties. We elect - we judge - we execute. Its pretty to watch & I love how we band together in ensuring we get government that is best for the country.

The Howard government did well in managing the economy but over time they became oppressive. In the end we chopped his head off. Rudd's government will be treated no differently.



[edit on 28-10-2008 by Nonchalant]

Well I understand the recent posts and feelings but we will have to do something to be heard.

In an earlier post I said

" Perhaps a good idea would be add the link above to your everyday email signatures. Also a link to this thread, not just Aussie email's but worldwide email's. Come-on USA UK NZ get on board let the pollies know what the world thinks as well - it happens here it will spread."

Also I think I might print up a bumper sticker that says

" I Surf The Net and I VOTE!"

Don't forget to add this link to your everyday emails.
nocleanfeed.com...

Its all good and well saying yeah we will vote him out in the next election if he implements this censorship but if you know anything about legislation once it is passed it is very hard to get it repealed.

Even if it is repealed they will just chuck in a not so bad form of the censorship that we will all go "well its not the best but its better than the first version."
That is not an option, we cannot sit on our laurels while this thing gets passed we have to stop it before it eventuates.

WE HAVE TO STOP THE BILL BEING PASSED!!!!!!!!

At least this is getting some international coverage now.

Australia To Enforce Mandatory Chinese-Style Internet Censorship

Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet Wednesday, October 29, 2008 The Australian government is set to impose Chinese-style Internet censorship by enforcing a universal national filter that will block websites deemed “controversial,” as part of a wider agenda to regulate the Internet according to free speech advocates. A provision whereby Internet users could opt out of the filter by contacting their ISP has been stripped from the legislation, meaning the filter will be universal and mandatory. The System Administrators Guild of Australia and Electronic Frontiers Australia have attacked the proposal, saying it will restrict web access, raise prices and slow internet traffic speeds......

link to the rest of the prison planet article.

and yes to all those international readers this will come to your shores soon enough so please voice your disapproval about our predicament loudly.


Remember November 1st Noon Parliament House for all states protest against internet censorship.

If the Liberals block legislation imposing server-level filtering, the Government will need the support of the Greens, Family First senator Steve Fielding and South Australian senator Nick Xenophon.

link to the rest of the age article.

These are the people we need to contact and let them know our disapproval of internet censorship:

___________________________________________________________________

Senator Nick Minchin
- Shadow Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy
- Leader of the Opposition in the Senate
Parliament Contact:
Phone: (02) 6277 3004
Fax: (02) 6277 5703
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Email: [email protected]

Electorate Office:
36 Grenfell Street
Kent Town SA 5067

PO Box 2141
Kent Town SA 5071
Phone: (08) 8362 8600
Fax: (08) 8362 8579
Toll Free : 1300 301 647
1300 numbers are available from within South Australia only for the cost of a local call.

www.aph.gov.au...
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Nick Xenophon
Independent Senator for South Australia
212 Grenfell St, Adelaide, SA 5000
Tel: (08) 8232 1144
Fax: (08) 8232 3744

www.xen.net.au...

Australian Greens

National Office, Australian Greens
GPO Box 1108
Canberra ACT 2601

Ph: 02 6162 0036 (in Canberra) or 1 800 017 011
Fax: 02 6247-6455
[email protected]

greens.org.au...
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Scott Ludlam’s Office
- Greens Senator
- Broadband, Communications & the Digital Economy
GPO Box B58, Perth WA 6838
Level 38, Perth CPO, Exchange Plaza Building, 2 The Esplanade, Perth WA 6000
Ph: 08 9225 5799 | Fax: 08 9225 5599

S1 36, Parliament House, Canberra ACT 2600
Ph: 02 6277 3467 | Fax: 02 6277 5821
[email protected] | www.scottludlam.org.au

Media contact: Tim Norton - 0418 401 180

scott-ludlam.greensmps.org.au...
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I wouldn't worry about family first since they are pro internet censorship.

[edit on 29-10-2008 by blahdiblah]

Mon, 27th October 2008 National broadband network bid process becoming a farce: Minchin Senator the Hon Nick Minchin Shadow Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate The Rudd Labor Government’s bidding process for its proposed National Broadband Network is becoming a farce, said Shadow Minister for Communications, Senator Nick Minchin today. Senator Minchin was responding to news today that TransACT has withdrawn from the Terria consortium. “With the Terria consortium losing its third member in a week, and Telstra refusing to lodge a bid, the Government’s NBN process is becoming a laughing stock”, Senator Minchin said. “Key industry participants are openly condemning the whole process and even questioning whether the nation really needs Labor’s NBN. “The CEOs of AAPT and iiNet have described Labor’s process as either ‘corrupt’ or “arse-about” and the chairman of TPG-Soul has questioned the case for a national broadband network as envisaged by Labor, given the availability of ADSL2+. “While Senator Conroy criticised the Opposition last week for suggesting a cost/benefit analysis of the NBN be commissioned, the CEO of AAPT said “we have got to come clean and say, does this investment really stack up?” “Senator Conroy needs to face the reality that his proposed NBN is increasingly being questioned and his bidding process is falling apart. “It is becoming increasingly doubtful that $4.7 billion of taxpayers’ money should be handed over to Senator Conroy to play with. On the evidence so far, that would be a reckless waste of money”, concluded Senator Minchin.

link to the liberals website

I'm pretty sure if we contacted Senator Nick Minchin he would sympathize with our plight.

Its started
Protest logged on internet filter for illegal sites
THE Rudd Government is facing a backlash over its plan to ask internet service providers to test filters on a blacklist of about 1000 illegal websites.


Go Look Here

I'm horrified by this, actually, and I'm a US citizen.

The internet is a bastion of free speech and expression. And in the information age, essential. To bridle it in any way destroys the very thing that makes it powerful.

They have to say they CAN do it.

There's too many votes from people ignorant of how the internet works, and too many frightened by the idea of technology who wear their fear as a badge of virtue.

If they got sheep-like co-operation from all the ISP's and wanted to spend a few million dollars they could do it for ....mmmm... 10-12 hours if that.

You see, filters are premised on the idea that the internet is a static network, in fact it is about as organic as you could get.

reply to post by undermind



Not arguing with or doubting what you say ... but if that's the case, how does China's system work ?

It seems like things just got worse -- it is a done deal.Read it and weep.

ISPs in china are all directly or indirectly government owned, even then they rely on google and yahoo to filter searches on subjects like Tiananmin Square and so forth. This is only the searching block, combined with their blocking websites through central hubs that takeover ISP's packet routing and return an error message if the user points their browser to one of the banned sites.

China and other countries like Zimbabwe also relies on people's general co-operation - and serious intimidation of those who don't.


They still can't prevent file sharing, FTP, or attachments in emails.


It would mean all the big and little ISP's in Australia agreeing to have a master routing program - which would have to be updated MANUALLY at BOTH ENDS (that is, a group of people would have to sit there, searching the internet for banned sites, and actually downloading material from those banned sites (which is a strange question in itself; the filter updaters will see the banned material on a computer screen, and technically could be in breach of their own law!!!)

Still, they have to have a go at stopping the heavy bad news watchers, and red flagging them, which I completely agree with.



[edit on 31-10-2008 by undermind]

You know what....SCREW THIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!!! SCREW AUSTRALIA!!!!!!!!!!!

I came to this country to get away from another country, a #ty 3rd world country to live in a FREE world, filled with FREEDOM and OPPERTUNITY!!!

And this is what I get ??

FFFFCCCKKKK this!!!

U know what, I'm moving to fing CHINA, at least there sht is what it is, and it;s how it is and what's expected...

FCCCCKKKKKKK YOU Steven Conroy, i hope u die of AIDS and you whole family too you filthy bastard!!!!!!!!!!

I wanted to find out more on this and in my searching efforts i found this site:

www.overclockers.com.au...

I gives a great amount of information regarding this filtering. It appears to be updated daily as per a wikipedia article.

It even alerts people to the ways we can bypass it, like this link from the Sydney Morning Herald.
How to easily bypass Australia's internet filters for free

Internet censorship pilot to go ahead

The federal government has formally begun seeking "expressions of interest" from Australian ISPs wishing to be the first to pilot the government's Internet censorship plan.

"The Government intends to take an evidence-based approach to content filtering at the ISP level and is committed to working closely with industry to address any concerns, including costs and impacts on internet speeds", said ACMA.

External Source

It appears the government is ready to roll this thing out into trials. Hopefully the ISP's refuse to let the government do this, however, who know how much money the government will use to entice one to do so.

The rest of the world need to take notice of this, your country will be watching on with glee if this works and gets implemented. YOU WILL BE NEXT!

Thought I would post this up for people who care.

I got this from the no clean site, which has all the information about the the subject at hand. I've stuck it in my sig to spread the word, every Aussie should do the same here and other forums you post in.

Just click the quote tab above, then copy and past the image/link into you signature in your members center.

It has been approved by the mods as well

Finally some good news!!

Here's a link to The Age

Support for the Government's plan to censor the internet has hit rock bottom, with even some children's welfare groups now saying that that the mandatory filters, aimed squarely at protecting kids, are ineffective and a waste of money.

Let's hope they scrap it!

[edit on 1-12-2008 by Chadwickus]

well, in all fairness you voted these labour idiots into Govt, did you not look over the tasman to see how labour was screwing NZ? Thank god we got rid of that government and got one in that is throwing away the nanny bs that labour brought in

btw, there is no opt out for the the filter, it will affect all australian net connections.