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Wikileaks Proffers Photo Evidence of Bizarre U.S. Torture


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Topic started on 23-7-2008 @ 01:49 PM by DimensionalDetective


Wikileaks Proffers Photo Evidence of Bizarre U.S. Torture


www.infowars.com

Photo of a detainee held by the United States, with his face wired, lips sewn, red eyes and torso sacked. According to digital camera metadata the image was taken on Feb 9, 2003 03:49:25. The 6 Aug 2004 is also mentioned in relation to this photo. The facial wiring is clearly non-medical. The location of the detainee is unknown, possibly the US Bagram Theater Internment Facility in Afghanistan.
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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:49 PM by DimensionalDetective


Normally I wouldn't post anything from wiki as news, but I have yet to see this reported on ANY of the MSM outlets, nor do I think we ever will. This is highly disturbing, and hopefully we can get to the bottom of who this individual was, where he was being imprisoned, and who was responsible for this completely barbaric atrocity. This is like something straight out of a gory horror movie...


Wikileaks staff have verified that the photograph came from a US military computer network.



www.infowars.com
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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:56 PM by deltaboy


Nice t-shirt hes wearing underneath. Better than wearing the orange prison suit.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:57 PM by pluckynoonez


This emboldens the enemy. This does not help fight the War on Terror (brought to you bu Gillette Mach3 with Turbo-Scream Vibration!).

Sarcasm for all the Sean Hannity bumper-stickers produced daily...great job digging, DimensionalDetective.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:00 PM by Ian McLean


What was the deal with that photonegative version they had up there, with certain areas highlighted? Don't know if it's still there. Was that supposed to be evidence of some kind of photomanipulation?

Just checked, it's still there... they added this: "The negative image to the right was created by Wikileaks to draw attention to certain regions of the photo on the left." Uh, why?



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:01 PM by deltaboy


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Does beheading embolden us Americans to continue fighting them, or scare us?



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:09 PM by budski


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Does the slaughter of innocents and the use of DU in civilian area's embolden the troops or the "enemy"?

Does the killing of over a million and the displacement of over 4 million embolden the US or the "enemy" and how does this equate to a few beheadings by extremists?



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:19 PM by deltaboy


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Does market bombings embolden the enemy? Does killing Iraqi priests embolden the enemies? Does killing the Awaken Council leaders embolden the enemies? Does killing American spies by embolden the enemies? Answer that...



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:21 PM by Maxmars


Why would they wire him like this, and are those sutures closing his lips?

Where do we get these people from? Who trains them to do these things? I personally know interrogators - THIS JUST ISN'T DONE! Or they are all liars and very good at it.

I don't think you could order a US soldier to perform this kind of act on a prisoner under ANY circumstances. This has to be the work of some CIA 'contractors' or something.

Personally, I'm starting to think they are actually trying to MAKE terrorists out of these people by inflicting enough dehumanizing indignity as possible. There is NO way this guy was gonna 'talk' now is there? WHAT information do you get from a detainee whose lips have been sown shut!?

There MUST be war crimes trials. I never thought I would say that. Military people MUST be directed to ENFORCE the constitution and LAW - disregarding all orders to the contrary and reporting them immediately to the Pentagon via unencrypted clear channel communication. They have taken their stupid games too far.

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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:22 PM by ice1300


First off how do you know that this is a picture of an American torture victim?
Second this photo is Fake. Anyone with a little Photoshop knowledge could do this. The metal doesn’t match and is badly disguised. This photo is an easy way for anti American supporters to get everyone all nerved up.

This man is obviously a torture victim also malaysiaupclose.wordpress.com...

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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:22 PM by burdman30ott6


Uh... they were able to verify this came from a US military computer network, yet they have no clue as to where this happened, who the man is, what the circumstances are, etc, etc, etc?

www.guardian.co.uk...

www.abc.net.au...

There is nowhere near enough evidence to show this wasn't part of some self mutilation or sick hunger strike stunt... and that's if you take the extraordinary step to assume this photo even is of a detainee.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:43 PM by LestatG


Mmm interesting one, I suppose you have to believe the source from where it comes from.

On one hand I cant see that soldiers could get away with something like that, maybe contractors in Egypt or something.

But then again I cant believe that they would be aloud to do something like this to himself in protest to say a hunger strike, would they really leave a detainee with the materials such as needles and sharp metal? I think not. (he seems to be sacked too).

Interesting to see where it goes and what can be proved.

Cheers DD



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:45 PM by deltaboy


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Yeah you notice that his clothing is all wrong in which I mentioned if somebody notice it.

Too clean, no blood especially. He must be Wolverine if he can heal that fast with all those supposed wires are still actually sticking out like that.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:45 PM by deltaboy


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Yeah you notice that his clothing is all wrong in which I mentioned if somebody notice it.

Too clean, no blood especially. He must be Wolverine if he can heal that fast with all those supposed wires are still actually sticking out like that.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:47 PM by LestatG


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I see your point, but I have seen some monks and Hindus do the same in religious festivals with no blood.

Plus my mate had his cheek pierced and there was no blood then too.

Peace



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:50 PM by LestatG


Heres a link with some pics,
external image



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:53 PM by deltaboy


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Then it must be the monks and Hindus that did the torture if they know how to pierce him all around his mouth and cheeks without any bleeding.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:57 PM by LestatG


lol, Ok you got me on that one, but it does mean you can do all this without the wound bleeding.

I would have a go myself, but I would probably end up bleeding.


Peace



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:02 PM by budski


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Everything you have written is a direct consequence of an illegal invasion of another sovereign country, during which process, POTUS actively and with aforeknowledge, lied to the government, the press and the electorate.

If another country does that to the US at some point in the future, will you be so quick to take the side of the antagonist?

I think not.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:06 PM by LestatG


Everything you have written is a direct consequence of an illegal invasion of another sovereign country, during which process, POTUS actively and with aforeknowledge, lied to the government, the press and the electorate.

If another country does that to the US at some point in the future, will you be so quick to take the side of the antagonist?

I think not.




Well said, I must admit whats going is wrong, hurt and anguish on both sides. At times the argument seems a little too one sided.

Peace


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