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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 11:21 AM by Dan Tanna


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Thats some thing I will not forget for a long time TH3ON3. I have the origional still so if you want a larger copy, I'll set it up and post an image shack link.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 11:47 AM by Matt_Mulder


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MAn, this is awesome.
I saw one actually in France, a couple of months ago. A cigar-shaped one, whiter than the others ( it was among a bunch of darker rain clouds, so i noticed it from a long distance. I took a couple pics with my cellphone, but it committed suicide in my sink two days ago. (may it rest in peace with its picture...)

Looks like I'm not the only onze seeing weird things in the sky.
When disclosure happens , we'll have a good laugh together.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 11:51 AM by Dan Tanna


Nous rirons comme nous buvons du nectar de la victoire mon tres bon Frere!

I may have only one pic, but heck, its a pic I will treasure for years to come. Our rising 'cloud' from the sea.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:42 PM by roxaz


hey dan, today i just thought about similar thing. in one video one man claimed that ufos are around us most of the time. they dont have any kinda cloaking device that hides them, they use different approach thou. they appear in such usual ways that ppl dont even spot them. its like same tree in your street. you dont see it cause you know its here. so i was sitting and thinking what could it be... and i thought clouds. its nice you got this experience, it confirms my theories. i should say however that when i read this thread it seemed yet another scam, however you looking at your points made me change my mind, kids cant get so much of them while fooling around



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:46 PM by Awarenessiskey


Is it possible if that ufo can go from their dimension to our if anything? And if they were in our dimension, their ufo's could effect the matter in our world? Their Magnetic things that could attract the matter in our air?



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:54 PM by Dan Tanna


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Hi Roxaz, its no scam I can assure you. I have started this thread because of its unusual nature, and yes, I get a malleting, but, its the truth and what we saw.

I used 'craft' in the heading because its the only way i can describe the tipping and flying off into the wind..



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:56 PM by Dan Tanna


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I have no idea.

What I do know is that the Swedish navy have a system to hide their ships in a cloud of sea water to mask their thermal and visual signature... so if this 'was a craft' maybe it was an advanced version?

(I am not saying one way or other for 100% if it was a craft, but I am open to that suggestion as its flight pattern was nothing I have ever seen a cloud do!)



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 01:57 PM by Essan



Originally posted by OzWeatherman

The wispy clouds (if not virga streaming from the main cloud), are probably cirrus, meaning the heights will be in excess of 20,000ft and most likely close to 25,000ft in the picture.

I am going to retract what I said about the direction of the cloud. There is really know way to be sure by looking at it


My interpretation is that the wispy clouds are more distant cirrus and totally unconnected to the main cloud. My guess at altitude is based in lenticulars usually forming above 20,000ft - I agree it could be lower though. Nonetheless well over a mile up! In terms of direction, I'm thinking there is land to the right of the picture (I may of course be wrong). As I said before, conformation of time and location will enable us to quickly determine that


btw whoever said that 'experts' were supposed to agree on everything! What a world it'd be were that the case


Edit: Dan - how quickly did this cloud rise? My point about impossibility is that it's a cloud that forms at mid/high altitude. No way it could have been at sea level.

[edit on 23-7-2008 by Essan]



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:07 PM by OzWeatherman



Originally posted by Essan
My interpretation is that the wispy clouds are more distant cirrus and totally unconnected to the main cloud. My guess at altitude is based in lenticulars usually forming above 20,000ft - I agree it could be lower though. Nonetheless well over a mile up! In terms of direction, I'm thinking there is land to the right of the picture (I may of course be wrong). As I said before, conformation of time and location will enable us to quickly determine that


btw whoever said that 'experts' were supposed to agree on everything! What a world it'd be were that the case


Edit: Dan - how quickly did this cloud rise? My point about impossibility is that it's a cloud that forms at mid/high altitude. No way it could have been at sea level.

[edit on 23-7-2008 by Essan]


I see where you are coming from in terms of altitude now, but my understanding of them forming at that height would be due to orographic lifting in hilly and mountainous areas. It also depends on the tropopause height and air temperature, because to be classed as altocumulus the cloud must consist of super cooled water droplets

I initially thought it was vurga because Dan, stated that the wisps were from the trail, anyway virga and cirrus can appear similar regardless of height.

Its to bad theres a lack of meteorological observations here, would be really interesting. Maybe Dan could tell us where this photo was taken



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:15 PM by alienj


Its a common weather anomaly, sorry no aliens here



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:48 PM by Dan Tanna


Man, how on earth did I miss that out? sorry Oz, I thought I wrote that in my bit with the extra pic. I was just off south easterly to the Orkney isles northern Scotland.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 02:56 PM by OzWeatherman



Originally posted by Dan Tanna
So, yes it was a cloud. What made that cloud / allowed that cloud to travel against the wind, and tip 45' is what i would like to know - camouflaged 'cloud craft' or weird freak of nature?



Just to add, although it may appear that the cloud is moving against the wind at the surface, one must bear in mind that upper air winds are usually different speeds and directions than the winds at the surface. So for instance, the wind at the surface may be from the south at 12knots while the wind at 10,000ft could be from the east at 20 knots

Just something to take into account



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:13 PM by Dan Tanna


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Very true indeed. Thanks for the reminder!

I still am sticking 100% to what i have written though. it was on the sea surface, it did tip 45', and it did rise against the wind (as I could feel it at sea level.

But, I am very very open to a rational scientific explanation, hence the posting so far.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:16 PM by NephraTari


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It is a lenticular cloud. No big deal.
Hate to be a one liner but this thread doesn't really warrant any further discussion.




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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:17 PM by Dan Tanna



Originally posted by NephraTari
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It is a lenticular cloud. No big deal.
Hate to be a one liner but this thread doesn't really warrant any further discussion.




Well lets be glad your not the be all and end all decider on what can and cannot be discussed in a thread on ATS.

For your BS response, you got whacked with the iggy stick.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:17 PM by AGENT_T



Originally posted by alienj
Its a common weather anomaly, sorry no aliens here


Oh..Ok then,don't apologize..
We'll just stop discussing it due to your highly informative input regarding this thread.

If it's 'common' as described..if you read it.. then please enlighten us to the source(link even) of your research so we can bask in your knowledge.
Cheers.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:24 PM by Dan Tanna




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I will discuss what I feel fit to discuss when i feel fit to discuss it. This is ATS skunk works, this is a speculative thread, and not a piece of research.

A lenticular cloud it may be, but why at sea level, why the 45' take off and why off the coast of the Orkney isles?



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:35 PM by Pocky


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Wow, they must be manipulating clouds too. Its unbelievable to me, when I see a vast empty sky and one sole cloud in the middle of nowhere, sometimes I ask myself, why such odd patterns in the sky? Some clouds are just odd. I'm gonna be looking up at them, inspecting them for weird anomalies from now on. Thanks to you.



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reply posted on 23-7-2008 @ 03:40 PM by NephraTari


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Funny I thought you wacked me with that when I determined your story about the fishman was a hoax. And here you are again still trying to fool the membership at large.

I am not falling for anymore of your stories and I will post explanations when applicable to expose the truth.

Ignorance Denied.



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