reply to post by Illusionsaregrander
Hello Illusionsaregrander,
It has been a long time since I have seen or read your post/posts. I hope all is well with you.
Tennessee. Goodness me, I thought you were in Hawaii..but then again it has been awhile since I have heard or ready anything by you.
Because most Christians dont really read the Bible, and most people of European origin dont have any idea what their culture was like
pre-Christianity.
Probably alot of truth to this ..particularly in Europe and the UK. You will find more people at the pub or Guest Haus on people's days off than at
Church or in Fellowship.
This is true as well in America where most of us know more about the latest television program or movies than anything to do with history or The
Word.
Apparently they dont realize that their religion and Islam are brothers. Grown from the same root. Worshiping the same God. And steeped in
much the same cultural trappings.
This cannot possibly be true simply because of what is declared in Galatians Chapter 4 about the Two Covenants. A simple statement is declared here by
way of two women in dispute of inheretance of their sons. Ishmael and Issac.
"For the Son of the bondwoman (Ishmael) shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (Issac)
This passage comes from the Olde Testament in a girl stuff dispute between two women..Haggar and Sarah...with two sons sired by Abraham.
Islam is of the line of Ishmael. Christianity is of the line of Issac.
THe purpose and function of almost all politics, education, entertianment, and even much of religion today is to make the children of the bondwoman
heir with the children of the freewoman.
THis is what is meant when I state that it is in error to believe that all gods are the same god ..all religions are the same religions. This is not
possible under the doctrine of ....The son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. For if the son of the bondwoman shall be
heir with the son of the freewoman then all religions are the same religion and all gods are the same god. But that is not what this passage
states.
What is also said under this group of passages is that those under Olde Testament Law..the Jerusalem which now is...and is in bondage with her
children...shall not inherit with the son of the freewoman. For the Jerusalem which now is is also of Ishmael and not Issac. This covers alot of
ground for those who can think it through here. This is why Paul is not liked by those with the World's beliefs and doctrines in their hearts.
I am not an Ishmaelite.I am after the line of Issac. In Issac shall thy seed be called.. and not Ishmael.
Much of the religion called Politics is a veiled attempt to make the children of the bondwoman heir with the children of the free woman..to make all
religions the same religion..all gods the same god. In this Ishmaelite manner ...todays politics and even in America is more in line with Islam than
Christianity. This is why today's politics is not in line with what most Americans believe and understand and you see them catering more and more to
Islam/Ishmael..and not after Issac. Most of our leaders have an Ishmaelite position..and are not after Issac.
Today's politics has more in common through religion with Islam than with America. This is becoming clear..and will be to more and more Americans as
time transpires. And remember ..politics pays for and finances public education. And Politics is a very devout religion..albeit a concealed one to
most of us. But if one knows what is in the passage..and what it fully means and implies you will catch politics at the lie very often.
It also shows clearly what you are stating as being in error. THey are not the same god..not possible once one knows the pattern.
Dont confuse religion and politics.
Politics is a religion and a very devout one at that. This is obvious by all the shills for the various teams and parties and the means by which they
gain position and often by spreading confusion. Confusion is also a religious dogma and doctrine. And it is also obvious that the media is part of the
confusion machine.
It is just that much of this religion is undefined to and for the public.
What???
OT, your intellect astounds me sometimes. If the store shelves are equally empty for men and women, its not a gender equality issue, is it?
There is no other factor which will determine their economic status of a people/nation outside of their religious beliefs. You get a people well
grounded in certain religious beliefs and prosperity is bound to happen. If you get the wrong religion in operation and the religion will return to
the state and church becoming one...the state is god on this earth. I think it was this fellow GFW Hegel who made that statement.
The Purpose of Separation of church and state is to prevent the church and state mischeif which took place in Europe, Asia Minor, and Asia for
thousands of years. This is called Limited Government. We are returning to GFW Hegel's "The State is god" today..under intellect and gnostic wise
men running things. THe economics will and are following. suit.
*Cough* *Cough* Bull#. Christianity has done nothing to ensure the rights of the poor, the oppressed or women. The fact that some nations
have managed to gain liberties and a voice for the poor and women has nothing to do with religion.
I understand exactly what you mean here Illusionsaregrander...I sat through a couple of hours of this program to do with HGTV or such the other day.
Or is it called buying a new house or flip this house. What I noticed was all these women on this type of program wearing Burkas. They had absolutely
no input as to what went into these houses or homes. They were pretty much silent following behind their men in submission. Have you noticed this
about these types of programs...where only the men do the talking and the women only speak when spoken to?? I see it all the time in this genre. It is
only the men who determine what amenities go into these homes...did you notice this distictive pattern in submission?? I did!!
Did you see this...Sharia law??? Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
I am being facetious of course but it is indeed coming to a neighborhood near you ..and facillitated by an Ishmaelite religion called American
Politics.
And as the power of both classes grows, the hereditary wealthy and the mega religious groups, and as they infiltrate our government, and
manipulate our economy, you see us doing worse. Not better
I do agree with you here Illusionsaregrander and for the reasons I previously stated..our form of government religion that is being practiced is more
in line with Ishmael ..and Islam than with the line of Issac. With GFW Hegel than Issac. And the inert fruit which it will produce is the same or
similar to Communist historys in this econonomic arenas. Deadness and inertness. In communist nations ...the state is god which is exactly the same as
Islamic nations and the fruit will be the same.
What I am saying here is that the religion of politics..in spite of the so called separation of church and state ...has more in line with Communism
and Islam than with what most Americans want and believe. The results will follow suit.
Thanks,
Orangetom