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Originally posted by StevexO
Wow, I'm always surprised by the sheer amount of disinformation that some of you put out there. There are a couple of ways to work there:
Military Route: You can't request Dulce, Area 51, or any other location like that. As a matter of fact, no one is actually stationed in these areas. All of these areas are linked to an acknowledged installation. I was stationed at Nellis, as are all of the military personnel who actually work up-range. I don't want to say too much, but they are officially assigned to a test squadron on Nellis, but they work for a "detachment" of that squadron. As for how to get there, it really is sort of random. It helps if you know someone who is already assigned there who can put your name out there when there is an opening. Other than that, you can just get to be known as a subject matter expert in certain areas like intelligence, engineering, air-defense, etc. Usually what happens is there is an opening and the person up-range who is hiring contacts the appropriate squadron commander back at Nellis and asks who would be the best candidate. If they like you, they'll have your commander get your resume and copies of your performance reports. If they decide to hire you, they'll start the process of getting you approved for access to the site. Once you are approved, someone will escort you up there and start your inprocessing.
Contractor: Much the same as the military. When there is an opening the program manager up-range starts asking other managers for suitable candidates. If they like you, they start the process of getting you cleared and transferred out there.
Basic gist is that you can't request a job out there, they'll find you if you are a good candidate and your commander/manager recommends you. When I was getting out of the AF I was referred to JT3 by a few people who already worked out there, but there were no openings at that time. Also, having SCI and/or SAP access is a bonus, but not absolutely necessary. You guys make it out like it's so "secret squirrel" when in fact it's an organization like any other. They simply have to be discreet about their activities so as to avoid too much interest.
Originally posted by kaiserdeuce
Good luck, and godspeed.
Originally posted by Byrd
Join the Air Force.
Seriously.
That won't GUARANTEE you a job there, but you could apply for Dulce. You'll need some good tech skills (or to be part of the military police) and will need to score very high on your ASFAB to be sure you get the posts you want.
Once in, you'll have to have a top-notch record in your area, and be able to get security clearances.
Then you can request Dulce. I'm not sure how much of a turnover there is out there, but you can look and see what's out there.
Civilian workers are also used and they have a job posting somewhere. However, they're carefully screened as well and you do need a good education.
Originally posted by The Bear Man
I would like to point out that you cant get a good job at area 51 based on knowledge anymore... you need to be a damn good sniper, usually a high ranking military spec ops sniper. Thats it.
The reason being... Area 51's operations have shut down and moved. The reason the truck is still up there is because A) Its basicaly an international landmark and B) They dont want stupid people killing themselves because of radiation poisioning.
Not to say that it never existed, it did, but they simply had to move. There were lawsuits where employees sued their employers at Area 51 because of the conditions. This caused by on site burning of radioactive materials and the already nuked out landscape (which is where Area 51 got its name, it was the 51st section to be tested) it was death to the employees.
May I consider working at Wright Patterson Air Base in Ohio where I live, they dont get much attention but thats where a bulk of the stuff from Rosswell and other research teams got sent. They have a nice, clean base as well. Good folk, not too mean for the MP types.
Im sure some parts of area 51 are still open though, just not the main base(if thats what you were asking to get a job for)
Originally posted by BlasteR
Originally posted by The Bear Man
I would like to point out that you cant get a good job at area 51 based on knowledge anymore... you need to be a damn good sniper, usually a high ranking military spec ops sniper. Thats it.
The reason being... Area 51's operations have shut down and moved. The reason the truck is still up there is because A) Its basicaly an international landmark and B) They dont want stupid people killing themselves because of radiation poisioning.
Not to say that it never existed, it did, but they simply had to move. There were lawsuits where employees sued their employers at Area 51 because of the conditions. This caused by on site burning of radioactive materials and the already nuked out landscape (which is where Area 51 got its name, it was the 51st section to be tested) it was death to the employees.
May I consider working at Wright Patterson Air Base in Ohio where I live, they dont get much attention but thats where a bulk of the stuff from Rosswell and other research teams got sent. They have a nice, clean base as well. Good folk, not too mean for the MP types.
Im sure some parts of area 51 are still open though, just not the main base(if thats what you were asking to get a job for)
The base was not relocated because of the toxic environment. The lawsuits that followed 5 servicemen dying was the direct result of stealth byproducts being burnt off at the site rather than trucked off to gain attention to the base. The family members of the dead servicemen sued the government but nothing ever came of it. President Clinton signed a presidential order saying that the base didn't have to release any of it's records to the families and that the base, in general, didn't have to give out any information regarding their deaths. This is the type of thing that happens under black projects/black programs in which the funding cannot be traced, the government uses funds to produce new technology, all the while setting aside all the safety criteria that, if in place, could have saved these men's lives. Since there is no oversite into environmental or safety of said black programs, the government can basically get away with anything it wants to even if it means people dying because of their negligence.
Following the lawsuit the base continued normal operations and testing.
I have seen no evidence at all that the base operations have been relocated. The site may be a toxic waste site, but actually there have been many new facilities built just in the last couple years which prove that activities are, if anything, business as usual. We talked about this in an Area51 thread a while back and, actually, it was my first post ever on ATS.
I helped to identify what some of the new buildings were since I know what munitions storage sites look like and some of them look like brand new munitions storage sites.
-ChriS
[edit on 28-5-2008 by BlasteR]