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Su-30MKI and Eurofighter to cross swords at air exercise in England

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posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 02:56 AM
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Why so many Q's about the N001 series?
Somebody checking out the PLAAF/PLANAF Su-30MKK capabilities?




posted on Sep, 3 2007 @ 04:16 AM
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Russia is upgrading 450 Su-27s to the SM standard featuring the N001V(E). I think that makes a much bigger difference than the Irbis which will go into service on a fairly limited amount of Su-35s and 30's.



posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 11:13 AM
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Heads Up!

Lots of info on the recent MKI vs Typhoon showdown coming up soon..
got some good insight from the horses' mouth as it were!

Watch this space for the next couple of days!



posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 09:48 PM
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I hope the MKI wins.
I hate all delta winged planes minus the Draken 'cause they're sooo ugly.



posted on Sep, 11 2007 @ 12:52 PM
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Sorry for the delay on this..
ok here goes:

There WERE 1 vs 1 Typhoon MKI engagements, but I believe they were all WVR.

Accurate comparisions on WVR capabilities cannot be made just on a couple of sroties when there are numerous factors like safety(paramount),dissimilar pilot experience/skill etc etc..

Typhoon advantages in WVR were :
1) MUCH smaller airframe so usually the Typhoon got a visual on the MKI much before the converse happened.
2) Better T/W ratio

MKI advantages:
1) Obviously TVC.
2)Two pairs of eyeballs on the cockpit instead of one.

Both a/c were HMCS enabled I think.

So who won at WVR?
Well again; there weren't enough encounters to make an accurate assessment and pilot skill levels may have been dissimilar; nonetheless the MKI drivers felt they had the uperhand in the limited encounters, again a possibly biased perspective!


All BVR enagagements had radar sightings executed through the 'buddy' link-up.. I presume each side had F3s which would relay radar info (electropnically or vocally?) too other dissimilar a/c.

'Invaluable' knowledge transfer was imparted on IAF electronic officers who are due to derve on PHALCON AWACS platforms due later this year.

The Typhoon option for the IAF MRCA bid is an unlikely one in the minds of the IAF pilots due to price and an 'overlap' of the MKI role in the IAF.
Surprisingly the Gripen is a favorite amongst the IAF MKI drivers.


I believe each AF got to fly at least one sortie on the other AF's jets.

Even the F3 cockpit aesthetics were better and more comfotable than that of the MKI.

No radars, neither the CAPTOR nor the N)11MBars were used in active mode.
The reason for the N011M bars being off was given as 'upgrades in progress'..
Irbis PESA?!
no clue...

I think that's about it.
And oh yeah.. no rumors about Raptor-Typhoon enagagements..not even at barside chatter!



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