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Originally posted by waynos
If the air defence network is working to plan and if the F-22 jockey is doing his job properly then WVR would never come into it. However plans frequently get messed up in combat and pilots get it wrong far more than they like to admit.
Originally posted by Darkpr0
One Russian jet I'd like to bring up, though, is the MiG-29 OVT. This thing pulls maneuvers that would make even a Typhoon wince.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
*Cough* No weapons load. *Cough* No full internal fuel.
Lets see these super duper maneuverable jets perform these maneuvers with a combat load, then we'll talk.
Originally posted by kilcoo316
Uhh, how do you know it hasn't taken off on a full load of fuel?
Originally posted by kilcoo316
Uhh, how do you know it hasn't taken off on a full load of fuel?
Originally posted by kilcoo316
Originally posted by WestPoint23
*Cough* No weapons load. *Cough* No full internal fuel.
Lets see these super duper maneuverable jets perform these maneuvers with a combat load, then we'll talk.
Uhh, how do you know it hasn't taken off on a full load of fuel?
Indeed... I dare say one of the criticisms that has (needlessly) been thrown around about the MiG-29 is you need a full tank of fuel to take off, do a few stunts and land... ....