See the Future of Nanotech...on your Hand!

This is amazing technology being worked on! The implications are such that you could have your medical profile immediatly available to you...or to emergency personal. What about having your palm pilot info or even the contents of your iPod display in this manner? It would truly make the iPod an I-Pod.

This nanotech dermal display is a designer concept, based on real nanoscience principles. Seattle-based designer Gina Miller, working together with nanotech populariser Robert A. Freitas Jr., describes the concept:

In his book Nanomedicine, Volume I: Basic Capabilities (available on the web at www.nanomedicine.com...), Robert A. Freitas Jr. describes (in section 7.4.6.7 (page 204)) a "programmable dermal display" in which a population of about 3 billion display pixel robots would be permanently implanted a fraction of a mm under the surface of the skin, covering a rectangle 6 cm x 5 cm on the back of the hand. Photons emitted by these pixel bots would produce an image on the surface of the skin.

www.medgadget.com...

You can also go here for a Quicktime movie or to see the above images in high resolution.

Or check out Gina Miller's Blog

Dermal Display
After months of work I am so pleased to announce that the project you have heard so much about on this blog is now complete. I had been working on changes to the scene up to the very last minute, so now I am almost in shock that I am done! I was able to upload two Sorenson compressed versions onto my website in .mov and .wmv formats for you to download. I have wondered why Sorenson does not have an .avi option, do any of you animators out there know?

I also can see applications like having an image show. It would be like a tattoo except you could change it or make it go away at will. Man, you could even advertise "I love ATS" across your forhead.

Simply amazing! This has got great potential.

Personally, I'd use this to watch movies in class, but, that's just me...

Über cool. I really wish I could live long enough to see half the threads in this forum come to fruition.

This needs to go into the New world order threads .
imbeded info at the thought of a mind .(insrert control here)

Oh man, now I can get that full-body Spiderman costume tattoo I was always scared of regretting!

Zip

Thats actually pretty cool, all the different uses to, I wonder though, would this put the display business out of business, or atleast reduce it a significant amount?


Also, I'd so get one if they were available.

Originally posted by Amorymeltzer
Personally, I'd use this to watch movies in class, but, that's just me...

Über cool.

I really wish I could live long enough to see half the threads in this forum come to fruition.

Technological progress is not a Linear process so it's very likely that within the lifetime of the 20-30 something crowd most of the things you read about NANOTECH will happen.

The future will happen faster then we all expect.

This reminds me of the viewer Random has implanted into her hand(you know Arthur Dents Daughter who was born because Trillian decided to visit a sperm bank and guess who the only compatible donor was )

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Originally posted by Zipdot
Oh man, now I can get that full-body Spiderman costume tattoo I was always scared of regretting!

"I'd get a full body tatoo of myself.......only taller" - Steven Wright

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Originally posted by Amorymeltzer
Personally, I'd use this to watch movies in class, but, that's just me...

Über cool.

I really wish I could live long enough to see half the threads in this forum come to fruition.

Movies?!

What about everything you were supposed to learn?
Or having a live chat session with someone just asking them to look up the answers to the questions in your exams and sending them to your hand display?
Or going on a gameshow and using something like this?

Watching Movies? Man your one heck of an under achiever! XD

Originally posted by sardion2000
This reminds me of the viewer Random has implanted into her hand

Absolutely. Glad I wasn't the one to say it, though. At any rate, no, I expect a lot of this should be out, but there's plenty of things that, let's face it, they just won't be out when they could be out. Not for reasons of ability, but funding, interest, attention, and the like. This is really really cool, but nation-building will take precedence, as will the education budget. There's no allocation in the budget for "OMG This is really, really useful, applicable else, and AWESOME!"

Originally posted by thematrix
Watching Movies? Man your one heck of an under achiever! XD

Nah, just a college student.

There's no allocation in the budget for "OMG This is really, really useful, applicable else, and AWESOME!"

The US government alone is spending roughly 5-6 billion dollers this year on Nanotech, the Private Sector is spending probably 2-3 times that amount(such a number hasn't been tabulated as they have been mostly conducted through venture financing to private start-ups)

Now there is the infamous US Black Budget. I would be very surprised if they didn't at least put 10% of it towards Nanotech as it will have HUGE military implications. Nanotube armour powered by Nanotube wires with an Optronic Computer interface is where the Marines and Spec Ops seem to be going. The Air force is looking into Aerostat technology and the only way that will ever meet the needs of the military is if they embrase Vacuum filled Aerostats and that is only really possible with Nanotech.

Bush is a HUGE fan of this technology as was Clinton. I heard there is a bill about to be introduced to Capitol hill soon that will increase next years budget by almost a Billion dollars. It has Bi-Partisan support the only real sticking point is how much of it is going to go to Nano-Toxicity studies. Some people want it to be at 5% some 10% of all R&D spending(Nanodynamics, DuPont and a few others are calling for 10-15% spending into Toxcitiy studies and Environmental assesments)

Lux Research claims that by 2015 the total size of the Nano Industry will be in the Trillions of dollars with at least 10% of that going into R&D. Things are moving along quite nicely, this isn't the Biotech industry of the 80s that's for sure.

Originally posted by sardion2000
Now there is the infamous US Black Budget. I would be very surprised if they didn't at least put 10% of it towards Nanotech as it will have HUGE military implications. Nanotube armour powered by Nanotube wires with an Optronic Computer interface is where the Marines and Spec Ops seem to be going. The Air force is looking into Aerostat technology and the only way that will ever meet the needs of the military is if they embrase Vacuum filled Aerostats and that is only really possible with Nanotech.

That's technology that will be created, then used, and then dumbed down for civilian use in half a century. A few uses might come out immediately, but they'll want to guard that prety quickly. Once we hit a certain point with these things, the flood gates are open, and there's no stopping it, for better or for worse.


Other than that, though, I stand corrected. Assuming your sources are right, that is, which they usually are.

Right now the only Scientific Papers being suppressed in the USA is those dealing with Biotechnology and that IS hurting that technology badly(just Google it up on scholar there are few if any Biotech Papers listed...). The only reason they are doing that is because the cost of entry is plummeting quickly and Bioterrorism scares the bujeesus out of them. Nanotech cost of entry is still in the 10s of millions of dollars, a modern day STM(Scanning Tunneling Microscope) can cost several million dollars each. But they are very modifiable and once you got one you can increase the resolution by switching the scanning tips with something better.

As for the flood gates, I believe they have already been opened allthough they are not open all the way yet. 10 years from now the next Industrial Revolution should be in full swing.

That's technology that will be created, then used, and then dumbed down for civilian use in half a century. A few uses might come out immediately, but they'll want to guard that prety quickly.

Yes they will try to guard their secrets but if History teaches us anything that is next to impossible. Especially in the age of the Internet.

Open Source will fill quite a few gaps especially as Fablabs come down in price dramatically(they are around 20 grand right now) they are now Self-Reproducable now so if you buy one for 20 grand right now you can build another one for just the cost of the electricity and materials and then try to sell that for a profit or use it to create another one while the original creates another one etc etc. You see where I'm going with this. Accelerating Returns baby. Use that tool to make a better tool etc etc. This is the best bet for getting a Molecular Assembler to the public ASAP.

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I hate to be the one to broach this topic, but when it comes to expanding digital technology, there always seems to be a new market for porn. This could give a whole new meaning to Palm Pilot.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I hate to be the one to broach this topic, but when it comes to expanding digital technology, there always seems to be a new market for porn. This could give a whole new meaning to Palm Pilot.

I hand not considered this prospect. It will revolutionize Porn as we know it. We'll have an epidemic of tennis elbow.

by GradyPhilpott:
I hate to be the one to broach this topic, but when it comes to expanding digital technology, there always seems to be a new market for porn. This could give a whole new meaning to Palm Pilot.

Grady, Grady, Grady

Pilot to Palm Pilot, "We're cleared for take-off!" ?

Back on topic ...

My concern is where, when and how this type of tech. will filter down to everyday Joe Public.

Conspirital sense would indicate just another means by which to monitor the masses. WOW! ... Look at that! ... What's your palm/id?

Man nanotech is just amazing When you look into the possibilities of what nanotech could do its simply incredible.

Nanotech could very well spark another industrial revolution and change the world in so many ways.

BTW this reminds me of the animated (talking) tattos I saw on Futurama. A absurd and comical idea I thought when I saw the show but now.......

Anyone noticed this thing has a lifetime orgasm count ?

Originally posted by Shroomery
Anyone noticed this thing has a lifetime orgasm count ?

Yep! There it is. Actually, it's Orgsm



[edit on 2005/11/30 by GradyPhilpott]

what if the military starts using it for means of camouflage & stealth?
like making a soldiers skin and clothing match the colour of their suroundings?
just think about it for a second...

From a mechanics point of view,
if I could reference schematics on the back of
my hand, or better yet, the top of my forearm,
this would be much better than hard-copy or
lap-top viewed schematics.

Speaking of, I'm thinking "lap-top" porn may
become something new, along with Grady's
"palm pilot".

Great thread.

Lex