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Originally posted by sebatwerk
So then you're talking about "low-level" members of Freemasonry? There's no such thing as "low-level" members, so why would you even say that?
Originally posted by sebatwerk
I guess I must've missed the memo.
Originally posted by mrfixit
Originally posted by sebatwerk
I guess I must've missed the memo.
I get the same memo everytime I log into this specific corner of this particular forum. Seems every "hot topic" if you will is full of misconceptions of some very pathetically misconstrued people on the subject of Freemasonry.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
But I thought that was because Freemasons are so extremely secretive, and that we're obligated, under pain of death, to lie about our fraternity to non-masons???
People sure are ignorant sometimes! :bnghd:
Originally posted by mrfixit
Funny how that works, if I remember correctly I'm obligated to be HONEST with all individuals and I don't understand why the people on here think they are so special that a Freemason would choose them, of everyone in the world, to break a promise tell them a lie. Some people are sure full of themselves sometimes.
Like the people who come on here and claim something absurd like "All Freemasons are being deceived about blah blah blah"! Like MILLIONS of intelligent men would have been so idiotic for so many hundreds of years as to be a member of an organization that is using them and lying to them... yet this conspiracy theorist high school kid is the only one who REALLY knows the truth!
Originally posted by akilles
And Truth, well that means you will learn the Truth, doesn't it. But does it mean you can share the truth at your will? Hardly. The only truth is, you have to go through the same 'initiation' of saying you are below others, and in the dark, before you can learn the precious secrets.
Originally posted by mrfixit
I can only answer for myself. When I need work done around my house, on my car etc., I always try to steer my work to a fellow Mason if possible. I'm not necessarily required to do this. I do this for several reasons. I can be assured that my fellow brother will do his absolute best in making sure the job is done first rate. I don't have to worry about the character of my brother as I would if it was just someone out of the phone book as his character has already been tried and he has been found to be of good character. It sure takes a lotta worry out of any transaction. So do I prefer to do business with Masons, yes I do if for nothing else but the reasons I stated above. As I stated, I'm not required to do this but I prefer to do it this way, in other words it's of my own free and voluntary will to do it this way.
Originally posted by Modulok
good work twitchy. i don't need to tell you that these masons are incapable of thinking rationally about these subjects. Their entire identity is wrap hinges on this stuff.
Originally posted by Modulok
good work twitchy. i don't need to tell you that these masons are incapable of thinking rationally about these subjects. Their entire identity is wrap hinges on this stuff.
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
While your busy patting twitchy on the back, why don't you ask him where those scans he promised are?
It's been eight days, since his proclamation of veracity and intention, and his humane (though misspelled) prescription regarding my mental health.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
I completely forgot about the ABSURD ABSURD claims that Twitchy made, posting SUPPOSED quotes from a masonic monitor (manual) that stated that masons should do everything possible to show preferential treatment to other masons, and that they should do this above all else including the law and their families. Trying to tell us that he got those quotes from actual Masonic monitors was foolish, but it was even more foolish to tell us he would scan the masonic books and show us. He promised he would do this almost 10 days ago, and he has conveniently ignored the thread since then.
Originally posted by sebatwerk
Originally posted by Modulok
good work twitchy. i don't need to tell you that these masons are incapable of thinking rationally about these subjects. Their entire identity is wrap hinges on this stuff.
Geez man, where did this come from? Have you been thinking about a way to reply to twitchy's last post for 2 weeks now? Not the quickest wit of the bunch, eh?
I wonder what makes you such an expert on our way of thinking, rationally or not, about these subjects we have discussed. I assume then that you can read minds, especially those of people thousands of miles away and whom you have never come in contact with?
Originally posted by sebatwerk
HAHA! I can't believe you remembered!...It's no surprise that Twitchy has not posted in this forum since then.
Originally posted by Modulok
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Wrong on all counts, there is no such thing as a "Masonic Bible" in terms of content (it's the King James Version), it merely has a different cover, and a section that members of the Lodge can sign after each Degree.
Its funny you'd object to me calling it a 'masonic bible' and then back this up with a link to a document that also refers to it as a 'masonic bible.' I'm aware of the nature of its contents, I have one.
Your response does not prove me or the mason I quoted wrong. In fact the link you provided stated that George Bush Senior was sworn in on the same masonic bible as George Washington, and that that Bush Junior wanted to be sworn in on the same one but it "had been transported, under guard, from New York to Washington for the inauguration but, due to inclement weather, a family Bible was substituted instead." Weren't you masons just claiming that neither of these two men were masons? This site also simply lacks the details of what kind of Bible was used in the augauration of most of your presidents.
C'mon, can't you do better than that?