Where'd all the zionists go?

originally posted by: glend
It is highly questionable. If the majority of Jews in Israel today are even descendants of Abraham.

No. What is highly questionable is if Abraham even existed.
Abraham supposedly existed 2166 b.c.e.
The Old Testament story wasn't written down until 700 b.c.e.
1500 years between when Abraham supposedly lived and when the story was written. And that's during a time period when things weren't written down and records were not able to be kept.
It's highly doubtful that the story is true.

a reply to: JAY1980

Hamas Defector Yousef, the son of Hamas co-founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef, Tells Pro Palestinian Activists They Belong in a Mental Asylum

"It's very disappointing to see Americans supporting Hamas and thinking that Hamas is a cool thing, while Hamas does not respect any of those followers, while those followers don't know that Hamas would torture them and massacre them with no mercy. They call them useful idiots. They don't know that Hamas is a dark black hole," Yousef said on an April 2 episode of "Dr. Phil Primetime."

"[Pro-Palestinians are] absolutely idiots because they don't know what they are supporting. They are supporting a monster that has been hijacking an entire society and endangering the entire Middle East, pushing the world towards a global war. … What's happening is insanity. Those pro-Palestine people need to go to a mental asylum."

"In fact, since Oct. 7, I personally don't differentiate between Hamas and the so-called Palestinians because, actually, there is no Palestinians, there are tribes. There is a tribe of Hamas, and there is the tribe of the Islamic Jihad … and each one has different interests, and all of them are conflicted," he said. "If they did not have Israel as the common enemy, they would kill each other. This is the reality."

a reply to: FlyersFan

Rather than exist in all that hateful racism FlyersFan. Why don't you wash away that darkness by educating yourself. There is a book called "Lives in Common: Arabs and Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Hebron" written by Menachem Klein who taught at department of Political Science, Bar-Ilan University, Israel.

He quotes the memoirs of Ya’akov Elazar from Jerusalem, who remembers how “the Muslim women cooperated respectfully with the customs of the Jewish religion…the Muslim neighbors allowed the Jewish women to pump water necessary before the Sabbath.” Klein also describes how some Muslims even joined their Jewish neighbors in reciting religious prayers. He describes the cheder (a traditional elementary school where the basics of Judaism and the Hebrew language were taught) run by Hacham Gershon in the neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah, where Arab parents brought their children so that they would learn how to behave properly. Klein also writes that sexual relations and marriages between Jews and Arabs were not unheard of, even if they were not considered legitimate.

That all fell apart when England took control of those lands. External Zionist and Arabian movements tore the land apart. Resulting in fighting that you cite as evidence.

originally posted by: glend
Rather than exist in all that hateful racism FlyersFan....

Nothing I posted is 'racist'. I posted historical facts. The Middle East and Persia have never been one happy place with everyone getting along. That's garbage. Crack open a history book. Oh .. and Islam isn't a race. So you fail on that as well.

Islam is a violent, expansionary ideology that seeks the subjugation and destruction of other faiths, cultures, and systems of government. The Quran contains 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. It's violent. It's bloody. It's intolerant. It's NOT 'the religion of peace'.

GAZA

"Our conflict is not an Israeli-Arab conflict. Our struggle is not for a Palestinian state. We are seeking the world. We are seeking the whole world. We are seeking a confrontation against all Crusaders, against all Christians, against all infidels until they adopt the Islamic religion, until they follow the Sharia of Allah. We are not interested in Palestine. We are not interested in Tel Aviv or in Ashkelon. What is important for us is to see Islam ruling the world. This is the religion of God and we are fighting to see Islam rule the world." - Abu al-Ayna al-Ansari, a leader of a Salafi group in the Gaza Strip that is allied with Islamic State ideology

“As Muslims, we don’t believe in states, borders, and embassies, and most certainly not in Israel’s right to exist. We have to focus on imposing the rule of Islam wherever we are, to signal to the infidels that their support of the enemy is useless." - Abu al-Ayna al-Ansari

ISRAEL

“We bless every drop of blood that has been spilled for Jerusalem, which is clean and pure blood, blood spilled for Allah, Allah willing. Every martyr (Shahid) will reach Paradise, and everyone wounded will be rewarded by Allah.“ - Palestinian Authority president, Mahmoud Abbas, on PA-TV in 2015

“The Islamic Resistance Movement: Islam is its way. It is from Islam that it derives its ideas, concepts, and perceptions concerning the universe, life, and man, and it refers to Islam's judgment in all its actions. It is from Islam that it seeks direction so as to guide its steps. “ - The covenant of Hamas, a terrorist organization that enjoys widespread popularity in the Islamic world despite brutal massacres of Israeli men, women and children.

"It was a calculated act, performed with conviction and faith in Allah... I dedicated myself to Jihad for the sake of Allah and Allah granted me success. Do you know how many casualties there were? That was made possible by Allah."- Tamimi, one of the bombers who slaughtered fifteen innocents, including six children at a Sbarro's pizza parlor.

"When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off the fingertip of them" - Literature from the Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'l-Jihad Salafi group in Gaza quoting from the Quran to justify sending rockets haphazardly into Israeli population centers.

"I am proud and honored to be a terrorist for the sake of Allah... This is Islamic religious law. I don't invent anything. I follow Islamic religious law in this." - Umm Nidal, a woman who sent her six sons on suicide missions against Jewish civilians

We are in need of strong and powerful heroes in order to implement the words of Allah: [The companions] 'are tough against the infidels and merciful among themselves.' We … motivate the students, to wage jihad, for the sake of Allah, and we instill love for Allah and His Prophet in the souls of our sons - Hamas spokesman at a 'summer camp' for kids. The Quran verse referenced is 48:29

"Our campaign against the Jews is a purely ideological Islamic campaign. - Islamic State magazine A-Naba' shortly after a March, 2022 murder spree

"My labeling is Islam only. Do not include me in any faction, organization or party because I am Muslim and that is enough for me." - Suicide note from Kamal Mahmoud Abu Bakr, a Palestinian terrorist


LEBANON

“We are… linked to the Muslims of the whole world by the solid doctrinal and religious connection of Islam, whose message God wanted to be fulfilled by the Seal of the Prophets, i.e., Muhammad” - From the charter of the Hezbollah terrorist group, which has kidnapped, tortured and killed numerous non-Muslims.


SAUDI ARABIA

"One of the greatest virtues in Islam is jihad for the sake of God. Ramadan is the month of jihad and battles, and most Muslim battles took place during the blessed month. This is your season, o people of jihad. Jihad during the fasting month of Ramadan has a great taste -- for what better way to break your fast than to kill infidels and relish the sound of the weeping of the despicable tyrants and infidels." - Saudi-based terrorist magazine, al-Jihad

SYRIA

“Our hero [the suicide bomber] believed in Allah and died while fighting for Allah” - Islamic Jihad leader, Abu Ayman

"We are fighting to apply what Allah said to the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. We are fighting so people don’t look to other people but only to Allah. We don’t believe in complete freedom: it is restricted by Allah’s laws." - A member of al-Nusra, an al-Qaeda affiliated group responsible for hundreds of terror attacks

"Being Muslims, we do not believe in political parties or parliamentary elections, but rather in an Islamic regime... Our heading towards the establishment of Islamic law (Sharia) is jihad in Allah's way." - A spokesperson for al-Nusra, explaining what motivates the car bombings, suicide attacks and execution of hostages

"Jabhat Fatah el al Sham will work towards achieving actions for the religion of Allah, may he be exalted, strengthening Sharia law and the rule of justice between people, all people." - The leader of an al-Qaeda linked terrorist group


SOURCE

The nonsense - "Everyone in the Middle East got along fine before Israel existed"

List of major attacks 1834-1948.
(just the major ones. not bothering to list the 'little' ones)

- 1834 Hebron massacre

- 1834 Safed massacre

- 1838 Safed massacr

- The 1920 pogrom

- 1921 Jaffa massacre

- 1929 Hebron massacre

- 1929 Safed massacre

- 1938 Tiberias massacre

- 1948 massacre

a reply to: FlyersFan

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When the west, starved 450,000 children under the age of 5 (UN figure) in Iraq over wmd that didn't exist. Do you see that as a genocide carried out in the name of Christianity? Or do you see that as a blunder by forces in charge of those christian nations? Can you at least recognize that Muslum people could very well see Christians as a violent, expansionary ideology that seeks the subjugation and destruction of other faiths, cultures, and systems of government as well. They see the attacks on Syria, Libya, Iraq controlled and financed by the west. To plunder their resources. Destroy their faith. [snipped]

Yet in reality the people of west have very little power to control what their leaders do. Likewise the people of Palestine have very little power to control what their leaders do. Everyone being brainwashed by media to see the other as evil.

The vast majority of people want to practice their faith in peace.

originally posted by: glend
Likewise the people of Palestine have very little power to control what their leaders do.

The vast majority of people in Gaza support Hamas and agree with the Oct 7 terrorist attacks. The so called 'civilians' participated in the attacks, and thousands of them cheered when the hostages were paraded through the streets of Gaza. The 'palestinians' support Hamas, cover for Hamas, help Hamas, agree with Hamas. The 'palestinians' and Hamas are not separate ... they are one in the same.

Shocking New Polling Out of Gaza and the West Bank Blows Up the Mainstream Narrative

The vast majority of people want to practice their faith in peace.

Islam is a violent, expansionary ideology that seeks the subjugation and destruction of other faiths, cultures, and systems of government. The Quran contains 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. It's violent. It's bloody. It's intolerant. It's NOT 'the religion of peace'.

Terrorist Attacks in the Past 30 Days Carried Out in the Name of Islam

Great progress here... At least we can agree that the problem here is religious fanatics, and every adult in the room knows it takes two to tango.

Who in their right mind would wear a kucklux hood and walk down a black dominated neighborhood?

That already is an indication that you can't be reasoned with, but if you then blame the residents for beating you up and decline any wrongdoing on your part, is at best worth a face-palm.

Stupid victim mentalities.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.