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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
... and balding for women is much harder on them then men.
originally posted by: Athetos
Comedians make jokes and Will hits like a girl.
To be fair, he only lets other men bang his wife not insult her.
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
originally posted by: incoserv
originally posted by: notquiteright
I am familiar with this bible verse. The idea that god would think it just to slaughter 42 young boys just for calling someone baldy is insane. Not the kind of god I would choose to have.
This is not what happened. There is much lost in the translation and the historical and cultural context. Deeper study reveals this...
The Hebrew translated in many versions as "small boys" probably does not, contextually, mean exactly that. The word translated as "small" (qâṭân) can also mean insignificant. "Boys" (na‘ar) can mean any male up into adolescence, as well as a young servant or even a young unmarried male. Think of the English word "lad" and the range of meaning that can entail. "The lad just started school," as opposed to, "I had a few beers with the lads." It is translated throughout the Old Testament as "young man" or "servant."
This phrase, then, could easily (and most likely does) refer to a group of acolytes, young men in the service of the idolatrous religious system practiced in Bethel.
The place where this occurred - Bethel - was known to be a center of idolatry, of demon worship. It is most likely that these "small boys" were not such, but were actually acolytes of the demonic, anti-God idolatry centered in Bethel. As such, their defiance of the prophet Elisha was a manifestation of their hatred of God, of truth, of holiness and their judgment was not because they mocked Elisha's baldness, but because their intent was to mock the divine authority that Elisha had been granted, thereby mocking God.
This was time and place of intense spiritual conflict and defiance of God's authority would not be tolerated. God's judgment on these people was a warning to the society to fear and reverence God for their own good. To have allowed these acolytes of false religion and demon worship to openly defy God's established order with no consequence would have been detrimental to the society as a whole.
There is always an element of mercy even in the most severe act of devine judgment, just as a loving father may cause temporary pain in the discipline of an errant child for that child's ultimate benefit.
Have a look a study that I did on this passage here.
Much misunderstanding of scripture is based on ignorance of historical and cultural context.
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originally posted by: TzarChasm
A man's honor is not tested in church or in communion with cosmic forces, it's tested in how you interact with your peers when you think you're untouchable. Much like someone who sends a plague to murder a generation of firstborns including infants who are innocent. That test of honor was miserably failed. Maybe don't use these examples anymore.
originally posted by: TzarChasmA man's honor is not tested in church or in communion with cosmic forces, it's tested in how you interact with your peers when you think you're untouchable
originally posted by: TzarChasmMaybe don't use these examples anymore.
originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: DeathSlayer
No, just that Chris Rock should avoid making fun of bald women.
Also we know what the bible says about adultery, but that is for another thread.
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: DeathSlayer
No, just that Chris Rock should avoid making fun of bald women.
Also we know what the bible says about adultery, but that is for another thread.
Chris Rock is a comedian. Most comedy is based on pointing out uncomfortable truths ... like Pinkett Smith's baldness. And he merely compared it to the haircut used by Demi Moore in G.I. Jane, nothing else.
Rather gentle mockery all things considered.
He could have given here the full Gervais treatment.