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Family wages legal fight with State to keep their children after using ivermectin to treat COVID

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posted on Jan, 5 2022 @ 09:49 AM
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Joseph (JR) Hoell, a Christian homeschooling father of four and “conservative firebrand” who served four terms as a New Hampshire state legislator from 2010 through 2018, has spent the past several weeks fighting a harrowing legal battle after state officials threatened to take away his children when it became known he treated their COVID-19 symptoms with the safe antiparasitic drug ivermectin.


Family wages legal battle with state to keep their children after giving them ivermectin to treat COVID



Do the people at NH DCYF really believe that administering Ivermectin justifies taking children away from their parents??? There are currently at least 2 known cases of this happening in New Hampshire.NH DCYF Fights To Remove Children After Parents Treated Them With Ivermectin (link tracking not allowed)/3sttkDY#nhpolitics

State Representative Jim Kofalt


You can buy over the counter tablets with side effects that kill for a headache - but give human grade tablets where the side effect is an upset stomach, gets your kids taken away????



Hoell told LifeSite that in early December, long after the family had recovered from COVID and stopped taking ivermectin, the family’s 13-year-old son became “disoriented” and “loopy” after taking an over-the-counter acetaminophen “at a level that would be a concern.”

“So I did what any reasonable and loving parent would do,” Hoell said. Fearing the boy had taken too much of the medicine, Hoell called the poison control hotline and was advised to take the teenager to the emergency room, which the family did on December 4.

“The hospital found no evidence [of] Acetaminophen in his son’s bloodstream and sent the family home,”

All fine go home




As a precaution ER staff advised Hoell to follow up with a primary care physician.
Hoell agreed and took his son to see a nurse practitioner at a family practice associated with the Catholic Medical Center (CMC) in Goffstown, New Hampshire.






During the appointment, Hoell mentioned to the nurse practitioner that the boy had recently recovered from COVID-19 after taking ivermectin.

According to Manuse, that’s when the state got involved in an extraordinary way.

Manuse said medical staff “immediately blamed the ivermectin for the son’s [Acetaminophen] story and called the Division of Children, Youth and Families (DCYF),” then “coordinated with police to have all of JR’s minor children removed from his home.”

“Fortunately, the parents quickly figured out what was going on; they were able to move the children to a safe location before DCYF could get to them,”


Lucky they had connections and funds to do this the average Joe would not.




“On Thursday, Dec. 16, JR appeared for a preliminary hearing in a Concord Courtroom and came to an agreement to have his son seen by a doctor so that he can get back to his regular life,” Manuse said, adding that as long as the physician clears the Hoells’ son of risk of coma or death, the family has been “assured custody of the children.”


Puzzled as to the issue being not the chemical used but the purpose - If the kids had got scabies or worms get the tablet no problem carry on nothing to see But to treat covid-19 oh my gawd.
Surely it should be the Acetaminophen overdose that should be the problem and not Ivermectin.




The best news is my children are healthy and doing amazing in spite of the actions of the state. For now they are in our care. t.co...

— JR Hoell, state rep ’10-’18 (@NH_Braveheart) December 21, 2021


So anyone in New Hampshire do you have any more information?
Seems like it should be big news there.



posted on Jan, 5 2022 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: puzzled2

Live free or die. LOL!



posted on Jan, 5 2022 @ 10:09 AM
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Healthcare workers (none the wiser) should be ecstatic that there is a home remedy to treat wuflu.
Government red tape is murdering loved one's left and right, and in between.


🙏❤



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posted on Jan, 5 2022 @ 10:14 AM
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He should (obviously) win the case and get reimbursed for all legal and trial expenses.

Parents who force their children to get the jab should be the ones in court on child abuse.



posted on Jan, 5 2022 @ 10:18 AM
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So, I guess we're all back to being libertarians now, right?

hehehhee



posted on Jan, 5 2022 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: puzzled2

I’m not going to talk about he Covid part of this case as there is a much bigger case.

At what points are parents responsible for their children?

If your child gets an abortion, or changes their sex they are mature enough to make those decisions.
If your child shoots up a classroom, or beats another with a baseball bat, then it’s the parents problem because you know, they’re just a kid.


Crazy right?



posted on Jan, 5 2022 @ 08:50 PM
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"nurse practitioner"

Avoid Avoid Avoid

Wanna be doctors who are NOT family physicians but fantasize themselves to be, that go 100% Karen on you should you challenge their minuscule knowledge.

That nurse did not give a damn about those kids.
This was all about self-validation and "you will respect my (minuscule) knowledge"

Bitch



posted on Jan, 5 2022 @ 08:52 PM
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This publication is legit:

The Approved Dose of Ivermectin Alone is not the Ideal Dose for the Treatment of COVID-19 - PubMed

Not a comment on the main subject of this thread though. Just a reminder that you need way more Ivermectin than the approved dosages to have any positive effect in relation to Covid-19 (as per the graphs of the in vitro study the publication above is responding to*), at which point, the substance is just too toxic (it would be a massive overdose that humans can't handle and no Doctor that recommends Ivermectin actually prescribes those amounts).

More details I discussed in this commentary (all 5 comments).

*: the in vitro study in question is this one (the graphs I spoke about are C-F, you probably won't be able to understand them though without the commentary above, in short, when the line goes down, that's where Ivermectin becomes effective in vitro, but those corresponding concentrations of Ivermectin at that point in the graph, represent massive overdoses in vivo, i.e. in humans; the authors of this paper are well aware of that, but deliberately will not point this out to give a false impression of the usefulness of their paper and research; by the way, the point where the line starts, already represents a considerable overdose of Ivermectin in vivo, they never tested realistic concentrations of Ivermectin that can be achieved in vivo by the approved dosages for Ivermectin):

The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro - ScienceDirect

On the other hand, HCQ + azithromycin + zinc + vit C + D3 works great. 100% effectiveness and no overdosing required (no so-called "gold standard" clinical trial can negate these results, it already happened, it's real and factual data, no manipulation of numbers involved):

Zpack = Azithromycin (from the brandname Zithromax, a standardized package). It's an antibiotic. The copper isn't vital, but he explains at the start below why he's adding that. Note that there is one part missing (youtube removed part 2, this is part 3).


Also of interest and background about Dr. Ban:

Hydroxychloroquine treatment for Covid 19 patients OAN interview part 1 Doc Talk w Dr Ban Ep 33 (playlist)

The interview above has plenty of clues that this Doctor cares more about the welfare of his patients than his career, license or reputation. A rarity these days (can't even say the same thing about Dr. Raoult who is also in the playlist above and has also used HCQ in the treatment of Covid-19, but only does so after a positive test and expensive EKG, wasting precious days just to make sure he and the clinic he works at don't get into trouble with authorities and the law, the earlier you treat, the better).
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