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Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Hey, guess what Spewerof -
No-one else in your own country believes you either!
CNN POLL SHOWING THAT NOBODY BELIEVED TENET. (Captured at 9:19 AM PDT Saturday morning).
Whom do you blame for the mistake in the president's State of the Union address on Iraq?
President Bush 93% 16533 votes
British intelligence 2% 268 votes
CIA 5% 948 votes
Total: 17749 votes
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Tyriffic
Good question.
I have answered about my country elsewhere.
I care very much about it, and the world, which is in fact why I am so concerned about the corrupt, lying Bush administration.
The world is a small place. Take a look around it some time.
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
No, no different really.
The CNN poll had an obvious "recency effect" which was about whether people believed what George Tenet was speaking truth. People knew he was being scapegoated, so they placed the blame firmly on the guy 'with whom the buck stops' - lying, corrupt 'president' George W Bush.
But interestingly, here's the lead paragraph from what you have posted:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Public opinion of President Bush's handling of Iraq has dropped about 20 points since U.S. forces took Baghdad in April, a Newsweek poll said on Saturday.
All around, not a good look in either poll, and down the slope to abomination for this administration.
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
No, Seekerof, I don't pick and choose the figures to make you look inferior. You are quite capable of managing that job for yourself, it is not my intention at all...
I select the CNN figures as more reliable because they are in direct response to the stimulus provided by people who watched the Tenet material.
The general opinion poll did not have that stimulus behind it, and most of the people polled will not have had the opportunity to hear Tenet. The more the information circulates, the worse Bush looks. Simple as that. He will get far worse approval ratings in each and every poll taken, and 53% saying that he didn't lie is not a very sound starting point.
Tyriffic, if you are sick of me meddling in your precious affairs, then I am sorry. I am not disrespecting you. You have been around more of the states of the US than I have, by double. I suspect you are really struggling with the fact that the Bush administration is corrupt, lying and deceitful. If I had any long-standing allegiance to his political party, I would feel the same way too.
But if you don't want to read my information which otherwise you would not have the opportunity to read, please go ahead and push the "Ignore" button, and be the worse off for it.
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Tyriffic: "I too grow tired of your foriegn opinion."
Thanks, Tyriffic.
This is a real issue for you, isn't it?
Leveller posted very very well on this matter a few weeks ago. I'm not sure if you read what he had to say, but it was an effectively argued plea to thinking Americans.
I haven't heard much from him since.
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
No, Seekerof, I don't pick and choose the figures to make you look inferior. You are quite capable of managing that job for yourself, it is not my intention at all...
I select the CNN figures as more reliable because they are in direct response to the stimulus provided by people who watched the Tenet material.
The general opinion poll did not have that stimulus behind it, and most of the people polled will not have had the opportunity to hear Tenet. The more the information circulates, the worse Bush looks. Simple as that. He will get far worse approval ratings in each and every poll taken, and 53% saying that he didn't lie is not a very sound starting point.
Tyriffic, if you are sick of me meddling in your precious affairs, then I am sorry. I am not disrespecting you. You have been around more of the states of the US than I have, by double. I suspect you are really struggling with the fact that the Bush administration is corrupt, lying and deceitful. If I had any long-standing allegiance to his political party, I would feel the same way too.
But if you don't want to read my information which otherwise you would not have the opportunity to read, please go ahead and push the "Ignore" button, and be the worse off for it.
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Tyriffic
Thanks for the news about Leveller.
I just checked my shoes. I am still in a safe place, well above the cesspools and piles of BS that Seekerof brings forth and talks about in most of his posts. He was a decent poster once, and then as an impressionable young man he got caught up in some typical redneck style arguments that most of the children at ATS do. I am not quite halfway through my demonstration of how this style of argument reduces defenseless people to moronic idiots. Besides being well above it, there is no accumulating faecal matter in my shoes either. Thank you for your concern!
You go and have a look at any government that you wish, and you will find evidence of corruption and lies in too many cases, but nothing on the scale of the Bush administration. This takes the cake as the worst of all time in the US, but just short of fascism (although it is certainly heading that way) and genocide. And it's not a partisan issue.
Originally posted by Seekerof
You keep adding color to the painting MisguideyA, you got along way to from finishing it!
BTW, the commands for providing the link here, since you obviously provided it, is url with brackets....../url with brackets
See if that will work.
regards
seekerof
[Edited on 15-7-2003 by Seekerof]
[Edited on 15-7-2003 by Seekerof]
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Tyriffic
Thanks for the news about Leveller.
I just checked my shoes. I am still in a safe place, well above the cesspools and piles of BS that Seekerof brings forth and talks about in most of his posts. He was a decent poster once, and then as an impressionable young man he got caught up in some typical redneck style arguments that most of the children at ATS do. I am not quite halfway through my demonstration of how this style of argument reduces defenseless people to moronic idiots. Besides being well above it, there is no accumulating faecal matter in my shoes either. Thank you for your concern!
You go and have a look at any government that you wish, and you will find evidence of corruption and lies in too many cases, but nothing on the scale of the Bush administration. This takes the cake as the worst of all time in the US, but just short of fascism (although it is certainly heading that way) and genocide. And it's not a partisan issue.
Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Originally posted by Seekerof
You keep adding color to the painting MisguideyA, you got along way to from finishing it!
BTW, the commands for providing the link here, since you obviously provided it, is url with brackets....../url with brackets
See if that will work.
regards
seekerof
[Edited on 15-7-2003 by Seekerof]
[Edited on 15-7-2003 by Seekerof]
Nice tidying up that time, Seekerof. You have potential in the English language after all.
No, I didn't link the url, I decided to leave it to you in order to check you could still type while provoked to enragement... or at least to make sure you still had cut and paste skills.
Have you checked those CNN figures yet, to make sure they are sitting neatly in their table where I last left them?
I don't think I will be finishing any painting. Other presentations are more my domain, but I appreciate art.
I don't mind join the dots though, and I know you will enjoy this....
BTW I have now wasted most of my ATS upload space on three stupid political cartoons. Is there another free storage place/URL that anyone knows about?