Jesus The Son Of Man Infers There Are Also Jesus The Sons Of Other Beings

originally posted by: Specimen88
Son of Man been used a few times in the different books by other notable biblical figures, like Elijah or Ezekiel, all the while Jesus claims to be "the Son of Man" in a singular sense.

Son(s) of God on the other hand been used in another context other then the Christian sense of Jesus being the sole son of god. Seems like it were used to denote supernatural beings like the pagan usage of spirits/supernatural beings. Odd that the small amount of it usage often relates to Satan, which has may hold huge significance to translation.

It does seem like a huge contradiction in the religious sense that Jesus would claim to be both a son of a man, and son of a god. Then again, in the Trinitarian sense, he one in the same.

I believe that the emphasis on Jesus being both the son of man and the son of God was done to show an important biblical point.

In order for him to overcome sin and death he had to be both.

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

Dunno, can't think of many mythologies that involve coupling of gods or mortals that would produce offspring. There are other passages about a "Living God" used but havent look that into it.

Thing is, Gods in general are often considered immortal or invulnerable all the while Jesus dies.

Son of Man or God isn't used outside of Judaism or Christainity, but neither is the concept of a "Demi-God" and would kind of be mundane to an extent.

I've heard that some hindus would be inclined to call him a manifestation of god, unlike past examples of kings or emperors claiming to be a manifestation of Ra in Egypt, or a dragon in some parts of the orient.

originally posted by: booyakasha
Jesus is the SUN of man. The light of the world who gives his life for us. The sun gives us light and life on earth. Without the SUN nothing would live. No man owns the sun so they called it Gods Sun.

The 12 desciples are 12 signs of the zodiac.
The virgin Mary is the virgin Mare, Mare is the latin word for sea.

The four books are the four seasons.

It's why Christians say Amen after each prayer. Amen Ra is the ancient egyptian Sun god. Christianity is a re-hash of the ancient egyptian relgion created by Julias Caesar meant to unite the world with one religion.

Jesus or any characters in the bible never actually existed, it's pure astrology. Astrotheology.

Satan was given a hint of what was to come in Genesis right after the fall...

“And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel” (Genesis 3:15).

Counterfeit deities came on the scene quite soon after.
Maybe to muddy the waters.


“And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years” (Genesis 1:14)

Again, a legitimate purpose corrupted by Satan.

Amen is Hebrew for “so be it”.

There is more proof of Jesus existed than not.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Jesus, was indeed a 'son-of-man'... but Jesus also became the 'First Born' by resurrecting into a glorified entity...

your missing one important factor... Jesus was begottten from joining... the Seed of King David and the Egg of Mary


understand that King David lived his life some 400-500 years before Jesus was conceived (~4 bce ? )
but 'God' wanted to keep promises to David & 'God' also selected King David as the only 'worthy vessle' to be a DNA contributer to the genome of Jesus,,,

the designated 'son of man' prototype/ 1st edition of resurrected humans

So the crowd answered him, “We have heard from the Law that the Christ remains forever. How can you say that the Son of Man must be lifted up? Who is this Son of Man?” So Jesus said to them, “The light is among you for a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness overtake you. The one who walks in the darkness does not know where he is going. While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become sons of light.”

The Son of Man is the light-being within all of us. It's our birthright

originally posted by: MissSmartypants
...God ... took on a material form here on Earth ... [whereislogic: i.e. "materialized"]

...physical incarnation of God?

...God has incarnated an infinite number times in an infinite number of realities.

Son of Man (Insight on the Scriptures)

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Jesus’ application of this expression to himself clearly showed that God’s Son was now indeed a human, having ‘become flesh’ (Joh 1:14), having ‘come to be out of a woman’ through his conception and birth to the Jewish virgin Mary. (Ga 4:4; Lu 1:34-36) Hence he had not simply materialized a human body as angels had previously done; he was not an incarnation but was actually a ‘son of mankind’ through his human mother.​—Compare 1Jo 4:2, 3; 2Jo 7; see FLESH.

For this reason the apostle Paul could apply Psalm 8 as prophetic of Jesus Christ. In his letter to the Hebrews (2:5-9), Paul quoted the verses reading: “What is mortal man [ʼenohshʹ] that you keep him in mind, and the son of earthling man [ben-ʼa·dhamʹ] that you take care of him? You also proceeded to make him a little less than godlike ones [“a little lower than angels,” at Hebrews 2:7], and with glory and splendor you then crowned him. You make him dominate over the works of your hands; everything you have put under his feet.” (Ps 8:4-6; compare Ps 144:3.) Paul shows that, to fulfill this prophetic psalm, Jesus indeed was made “a little lower than angels,” becoming actually a mortal “son of earthling man,” that he might die as such and thereby “taste death for every man,” thereafter being crowned with glory and splendor by his Father, who resurrected him.​—Heb 2:8, 9; compare Heb 2:14; Php 2:5-9.

The designation “Son of man,” therefore, also serves to identify Jesus Christ as the great Kinsman of mankind, having the power to redeem them from bondage to sin and death, as well as to identify him as the great Avenger of blood.​—Le 25:48, 49; Nu 35:1-29; see AVENGER OF BLOOD; RANSOM; REPURCHASE, REPURCHASER.

Thus, Jesus’ being called the “Son of David” (Mt 1:1; 9:27) emphasizes his being the heir of the Kingdom covenant to be fulfilled in David’s line; his being called the “Son of man” calls attention to his being of the human race by virtue of his fleshly birth; his being called the “Son of God” stresses his being of divine origin, not descended from the sinner Adam or inheriting imperfection from him but having a fully righteous standing with God.​—Mt 16:13-17.

What is “the sign of the Son of man”?

However, there is evidently another major reason for Jesus’ frequent use of the expression “Son of man” as applying to himself. This is with regard to the fulfillment of the prophecy recorded at Daniel 7:13, 14. In vision, Daniel saw “someone like a son of man” coming with the clouds of the heavens, gaining access to “the Ancient of Days,” and being granted “rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him,” his Kingdom being an enduring one.

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The correct understanding is made more evident by Jesus’ own answer to the high priest’s interrogation, saying: “I am [the Christ, the Son of God]; and you persons will see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of power and coming with the clouds of heaven.”​—Mr 14:61, 62; Mt 26:63, 64.

Therefore the prophecy of the coming of the Son of man into the presence of the Ancient of Days, Jehovah God, clearly applies to an individual, the Messiah, Jesus Christ. The evidence is that it was so understood by the Jewish people. Rabbinic writings applied the prophecy to the Messiah. (Soncino Books of the Bible, edited by A. Cohen, 1951, commentary on Da 7:13) ... After Jesus had died as a man and had been resurrected to spirit life, Stephen had a vision in which “the heavens opened up” and he saw “the Son of man standing at God’s right hand.” (Ac 7:56) This shows that Jesus Christ, although sacrificing his human nature as a ransom for mankind, rightly retains the Messianic designation “Son of man” in his heavenly position.

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a reply to: MissSmartypants

So.... if in all of eternity God really did only take on a physical form this one and only time here on our planet..then why the need to add on the qualifier "of Man" unless it was necessary to differentiate from some other physical incarnation of God? If He only did it once here on Earth then it would have been more accurate to simply be refered to as Jesus THE Son, with THE as in THE one and only.

There were many Jesus' s in that day and in order to prperley identify Him He carried the name Jesus son of Mary or son of man because His father was in question. All males of that era carried their fathers or decendents name for identity. Mary had no record of ever being married and Jesus could not prove his father.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

I surmise that what with all the inhabitable planets, possible dimensions, infinite multiverses, and branching timelines God has incarnated an infinite number times in an infinite number of realities.

yep....and even an infinite number of times right here on our own planet....because we are all part of it.