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The Economics of Socialist Policies

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posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 04:00 PM
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The rise of Socialism here in the US should be a wake up call for Americans and freedom-loving global citizens alike. Champagne Socialist hypocrites like Bernie Sanders, AOC and the likes are continuing to indoctrinate unsuspecting voters (especially millennials and the younger generations), without providing feasible economic policies or solutions to the issues they speak of.

It's easy to believe these politicians and their proposals are genuine if you simply take their word at face value and trust that what they say is sincere, however when you peak behind the curtains and do a little research you will find that socialist policies always ultimately backfire and allow our "leaders" to consolidate more power, enriching themselves and further oppressing the masses as a result.

That's not to say both sides of the political spectrum are innocent. Republicans are also often hypocrites and if you haven't noticed, the CARES Act, PPP loans, stimulus checks and reckless borrowing/printing by our government as a result of COVID will ultimately end in pain and tears for all of us taxpayers (while those who made these decisions will retire in their ivory towers, free of any consequence).

Nepotism, hypocrisy and reckless policies CANNOT end well for us in the US. Meanwhile TPTB have been very effective at shutting down civil discourse and conversation so that we are all screaming at eachother instead of holding the corrupt politicians accountable.

Anyway... here is Episode 4 of the Paradise Lost Financial Podcast, focused on the issues mentioned above. We need Americans to wake up before it's too late!

Stay safe out there ATS fam - here's the link:
Episode 4 of the Paradise Lost Financial Podcast

-FamCore



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: FamCore
That's not to say both sides of the political spectrum are innocent. Republicans are also often hypocrites and if you haven't noticed, the CARES Act, PPP loans, stimulus checks and reckless borrowing/printing by our government as a result of COVID will ultimately end in pain and tears for all of us taxpayers (while those who made these decisions will retire in their ivory towers, free of any consequence).


Watching the mental gymnastics people performed to explain why this was 'good socialism' was disturbing.



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 04:23 PM
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Part of the problem today is a view that investment's need quick turnaround's, but investing in people is a long term plan and that is not compatible with most modern purely capitalist plan's, it sound's pure common sense but it is actually not or so it seems and instead over the past several decades the west has moved from investing in people into exploiting them and there economy's milking at fist then sucking the wealth into fewer and fewer hands.

It was one of the thing's that led to the failure of Ancient Rome and may be an inevitable thing that happens leading to growing inequality and discontent, falling living standards, failing economy's (once the money is no longer going around because it is in fewer and fewer hands it has to be replaced with fake money and that has no real value) and eventual collapse.

Socialism is equally blind, only balancing the equation for everyone concerned, less money for the ultra wealthy with more taxation on them to put that money back into the economy through government subsidies etc, better wages and higher living standards for the working class also drives the retail sector, only this work's.

Unregulated capitalism is as evil as runaway communism, both systems are equally wrong.

Some say you should not tax the rich, you should not tax the corporations, you should not tax the money makers, it is mostly THEY Which say this.
Only cutting tax and raising wages and living standards, the percentage of a nations wealth in the hands of it's working class which then pushed up the middle class despite them taking on a slight tax increase and putting the burden of the tax onto the shoulders most capable of supporting it the ultra elite, the corporations etc will despite it's claimed uncompetitive side affect (which can be fixed with appropriate penalty's on non essential foreign goods) will fix the problem, only this and as for corporation's moving elsewhere just tax the hell out of whatever they want to import to make them pay for the job losses they have caused to the economy and they would soon stop playing silly buggers, never going to happen though since they control most western government's these day's and most politicians are either heavily invested in them or are otherwise on there unofficial payroll's.
In the us what you see today is a result of this man's warning.

He was far sighted a strategist and at that time the US government was not yet under there control but they were falling under and he tried to warn you.

By the way this may shock some of you but the most socialist system that ever existed was the US system of democratic government (though I would argue that for a very short time we bettered it in the UK but only for a very short time) before the corporate take over that irrevocably corrupted it (Communism with it's cruel human oppression and outright theft of everything from everyone need never apply it was the vilest form of control that put ALL the wealth of it's nations into the hand's of even fewer than runway capitalism does and another way or looking at it is that it was a big scam).
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posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

And yet virtue-signaling politicians & paper-thin “activists” who have an economic IQ of roughly zero are giving round of applause for the 1st round of stimulus checks and salivating for the 2nd one to come around

Meanwhile my better half is an elementary school teacher who files her taxes each year (early this year because of the extension) and who qualifies for the full amount and yet she did not receive anything in “stimulus”, with no recourse with the IRS who say “nothing is found” when she tries to check in the status of her stimulus check.

Did you know the Small Business Administration said “if you are a business applying for a PPP loan in an amount of $2million or less, we will not vet your application? Hedge funds and scumbags like Paul Pelosi simply applied for these PPP loans and got them, at taxpayers expense even though these types of businesses actually BENEFITTED from
Covid since the treasury and fed printed trillions, which propped up valuations of securities and increased their revenues from fees.

Taxpayers are being raked over the coals while career politicians and money managers laugh all the way to the bank with windfalls of millions of taxpayers dollars.

My age group is applauding Pelosi & AOC (or conversely Trump) even though all of them are corrupt scumbags who are robbing us.

We are past the point of no return but those of us awake can still at least attempt to wake others up with the time we have left.

That’s where I am personally at, at least. Which is why I’m
hoping to wake some people up here in the meantime...


Signs of the times :meh
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posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

It is funny how when a disaster strikes, even an overhyped one, both parties take any advantage they can get.
Not one voted against that last stimulus bill.... 97-0



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

It is funny how when a disaster strikes, even an overhyped one, both parties take any advantage they can get.
Not one voted against that last stimulus bill.... 97-0



Spineless, opportunists who have all betrayed their oath to the Constitution and American people.

Buckle up... it's going to get worse from here



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 05:51 PM
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Even more disturbing is the number of people complying with this orchestrated collapse. Almost everyone can see it, yet it is somehow being embraced by the masses?

Hey world, Just mask up. Because. Breathe in your recycled toxic air while lowering the oxygen your restrained and indoctrinated brain receives, and wait for the robotic news anchor to tell you what to do and believe next. And vote for Joe. Communism with a glorious NWO sprinkled with violence and civil war will solve all problems. All 80 genders should thoughtlessly agree. Or you are racist. Let the Bible burnings begin!
And don't forget, the mischievous Christian devils started the fires. Crucifixion time!

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: FamCore
That's not to say both sides of the political spectrum are innocent. Republicans are also often hypocrites and if you haven't noticed, the CARES Act, PPP loans, stimulus checks and reckless borrowing/printing by our government as a result of COVID will ultimately end in pain and tears for all of us taxpayers (while those who made these decisions will retire in their ivory towers, free of any consequence).


Watching the mental gymnastics people performed to explain why this was 'good socialism' was disturbing.



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: FamCore

Isn't government "of the people, by the people, and for the people", somewhat more of a socialist, than right-wing, ideology?

Perhaps the tyranny of a supreme executive, wielding power over the other branches of government, preaching "God and country" as if they owned them, is the dangerous 'new' ideology?

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posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

No, you are conflating statism with conservatism



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: chr0naut

No, you are conflating statism with conservatism


Statism and ultra-nationalism are enduring components of right-wing ideologies.

Nor are right-wing ideologies 'conservative'. That is just a label used to make it appear that there is something redeemingly good and centrist about a political extremity. It is called right-wing because it is to the right of center.

The center is something other than the right or left wings. Ideologically, the center are the true conservatives.

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posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 07:39 PM
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Our founding fathers of this once great nation set things up nearly perfectly. As close as humanly possible. Read it and let it sink in. Then, read it again. Live it. Great things will happen.

Unfortunately, this is not the fate of America. A tyrannical one world government will rise. People will foolishly embrace this until all hell is unleashed.

Personally, I look forward to the ride. I believe 100% in God Almighty and the KJV Bible. I will give my life to resist the Beast system.

This is so real, evil demonic trash is taking notes.
Fact!!! The BS is, a real Christian has a live and let live attitude and would never hurt or hinder anyone or anything. We love in the realest way. Real love submits to free will, just as Father God the creator
grants us free will.


Funny sidenote. Even if you doubt my words, your God given conscience knows this is truth. reply to: chr0naut




posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: Illumimasontruth
Our founding fathers of this once great nation set things up nearly perfectly. As close as humanly possible. Read it and let it sink in. Then, read it again. Live it. Great things will happen.

Unfortunately, this is not the fate of America. A tyrannical one world government will rise. People will foolishly embrace this until all hell is unleashed.

Personally, I look forward to the ride. I believe 100% in God Almighty and the KJV Bible. I will give my life to resist the Beast system.

This is so real, evil demonic trash is taking notes.
Fact!!! The BS is, a real Christian has a live and let live attitude and would never hurt or hinder anyone or anything. We love in the realest way. Real love submits to free will, just as Father God the creator
grants us free will.

Funny sidenote. Even if you doubt my words, your God given conscience knows this is truth. reply to: chr0naut



The founding fathers of the US, while definitely being very forward thinking, were not the only ones who put together well reasoned platforms for fairer governance. The French Revolution preceeded US independence and the founding fathers were no doubt aware and discussing the implications of that revolution.

Similarly, the US Constitution has been amended over time. Yet it still does not include some basic human rights.

It allowed slavery and the prevention of womens votes in its early forms. It still does not include a 'presumption of innocence in legal proceedings' clause, and the 13th amendment has an exception that still allows for legal slave ownership. These are only two of it's flaws.

Essay: Problems with the current US Constitution - Rational Wiki

At the time, however, it was one of the better Constitutions written.

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posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 08:17 PM
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And even as is, it is far better than what we are seeing now. Common sense and common decency should make up for the rest.
It is instilled in each of us...a reply to: chr0naut



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: Illumimasontruth
And even as is, it is far better than what we are seeing now. Common sense and common decency should make up for the rest.
It is instilled in each of us...a reply to: chr0naut


If only common sense, and common decency, were.


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posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 08:26 PM
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Yeah. Soon enough. The balances of absolute justice will be set straight. I cannot wait for this day. I wish no ill upon any person but evil is out of hand. When I can go to the liquor store but church is closed, think about that?

If you don't believe in God, understand the world's governments believe in and worship Satan.

Let that sink in...reply to: chr0naut



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Point blank, it doesn't matter if it is a left boot or a right boot on your throat. Currently, it is the Regressive Left that is going Authoritarian and must be resisted.

Socialism is control. Central control with different Oligarchs that want to seize the power of government to ensure they are never removed.



posted on Jul, 26 2020 @ 11:05 PM
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You are correct and so is every response in this thread. Humm? Seems we all know natural law. So what is the problem???a reply to: infolurker



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 06:07 AM
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a reply to: FamCore

I've seen and heard horror stories just like that the past few months. Anyone who thought whipping up $6trillion in new debt for some sort of free for all give away was good needs to just outright join the Socialist Party and get it over with.



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 06:15 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
It is funny how when a disaster strikes, even an overhyped one, both parties take any advantage they can get.
Not one voted against that last stimulus bill.... 97-0


Which once again proves the point that both parties are the same party.



posted on Jul, 27 2020 @ 07:01 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
The French Revolution preceeded US independence...


Er, what?


The French Revolution was a period of social and political upheaval in France and its colonies beginning in 1789 and ending in 1799.



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