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originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: Gothmog
With the number of confirmed cases and the probability of a 20 to 40 day incubation period where you are infectious long before the symptoms appear it was just not possible to contain it long term.
There is probably a number of walking dead in the US right now.
originally posted by: clay2 baraka
If it does get into the lungs, it will be better for the quality of your treatment if you have access to oxygen before the hospitals are overwhelmed..
originally posted by: Gothmog
Isn't there anyway ?
Even from a normal cold .
Not counting automobile accidents , falling in the shower , and various maladies .
And , for your information , the number of confirmes cases is still way less than even the death from the common flu 2018 - 2019 just in the US.
Denying ignorance AND panic spreading .
Why ?
It is the righteous thing to do.
originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Seems to me he’s saying they don’t have the capacity or the resources to scope out the people who came in contact with an affected person since the number has become too high now.
Is Covid-19 worse than the flu?
Many flu comparisons are missing the point.
by Mihai Andrei
March 4, 2020
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If all we had was a new type of flu, that was one thing. But Covid-19 is much more dangerous than the seasonal flu.
For starters, it’s more contagious. The average person, even with mild symptoms, is likely to spread the disease to more than two people. By contrast, the seasonal flu’s rate is roughly half.
In addition, the incubation period of the coronavirus is 2-14 days, with some suspicions that it could be even longer than that. The flu incubation period is usually 1-4 days, and in extreme cases, it can range up to five days. This means that the period in which the virus can be transmitted is around 3 times higher than influenza, which also helps to explain why it’s so contagious.
...
The President is being given false information.
Well, back on march 9th there were 605 confirmed cases and 22 confirmed dead.
King County deaths: 26
A man in his 50s who was admitted to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle on Feb. 24 and died Feb. 26 tested positive for coronavirus, a hospital spokesperson confirmed Tuesday. The patient had underlying medical conditions and had been transferred from Life Care Center in Kirkland. This is now the first person in the country to die of coronavirus.
A woman in her 80s who was a resident of Life Care died at her family home on Feb. 26. She was never hospitalized.
A man in his 50s was a patient at EvergreenHealth Medical Center in Kirkland. He had underlying health conditions, Duchin said. The man had no history of travel outside of the U.S. or known contact with anyone who had COVID-19. This man was originally the first reported person to die of coronavirus.
A man in his 70s was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth. He had underlying health conditions and died on Feb. 29.
A man in his 70s was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth. The man had underlying health conditions and died on March 1.
A woman in her 70s was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth. The woman had underlying health conditions and died on March 1.
A woman in her 80s was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth in critical condition. She had underlying health conditions and died on March 1.
A woman in her 70s who was a resident of Life Care Center in Kirkland died on March 2.
A woman in her 90s, resident of Life Care Center, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth and died on March 3.
A woman in her 90s, resident of Life Care Center, and was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth. She had underlying health conditions and died on March 3.
A man in his 60s. He was not a resident of Life Care Center, but was a visitor. He died on March 5.
A man in his 70s, a Life Care Center resident, was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth, and who died on March 2.
A woman in her 80s, a Life Care Center resident, was hospitalized at Harborview Medical Center, and who died on March 5.
A woman in her 70s, a Life Care Center resident, was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth, and who died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s, a Life Care Center resident, was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth, and who died on March 6.
A woman in her 80s, a Life Care Center resident, was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth, and who died on March 6.
A man in his 90s, a Life Care Center resident, was hospitalized at Harborview Medical Center, and who died on March 5.
A woman in her 80s, a Life Care Center resident, was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth, and died on March 4.
A woman in her 90s, a Life Care Center resident, was hospitalized at Harborview Medical Center, and died on March 8.
A woman in her 70s, a Life Care Center resident, who was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth, and who died on March 8.
A woman in her 80s, a resident of Issaquah Nursing and Rehabilitation Center, was hospitalized at Swedish Issaquah, and died on March 8.
A male in his 80s, a resident of Ida Culver House, was hospitalized at University of Washington Medical Center, and died on March 9.
A woman in her 90s, Life Care Center resident, died on March 3.
A man in his 90s, Life Care Center resident, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth, died on March 5.
A woman in her 60s, Life Care Center resident, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth, died on March 9.
A woman in her 90s, a resident of Redmond Care and Rehab, hospitalized at EvergreenHealth, died on March 10.
Here are the deaths and cases of coronavirus in Washington state
The long-term care facility, about 20 minutes north of Seattle, has been battling a coronavirus outbreak for weeks. Since the outbreak started, 26 of the center's residents have died, 13 of whom were confirmed to have COVID-19, the disease the coronavirus causes. Some others who died have not yet been tested.
Over 51 coronavirus cases have been confirmed among Life Care residents. Those experiencing acute symptoms have been transferred to hospitals. Still in the facility are 49 residents, 21 of whom have been diagnosed with COVID-19.
Ten long-term care facilities in the greater Seattle area have confirmed coronavirus cases, Seattle and King County's public-health agency said this week.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Since 99% of the cases in the USA are classified as "mild", focusing on protecting those who are "at risk" is the wise choice.
Well, back on march 9th there were 605 confirmed cases and 22 confirmed dead.
Cases of COVID-19 in the U.S.
That's a 3.63% death rate. If you extrapolate that and just let's say 100 million Americans get COVID-19, that would mean 3,630,000 dead Americans. That is not mild.
To reduce the death toll we should continue to quarantine people. Allowing it to just run rampage is a recipe for disaster.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Since 99% of the cases in the USA are classified as "mild", focusing on protecting those who are "at risk" is the wise choice.
"It is one thing to say we need to do mitigation, but there is no doubt that containment & slowing progression is still important so ditching quarantine for contact at this point seems to misguided, especially due to the still limited testing," he said.
"Let's suppose #Sacramento County is correct (which I think they are not) that it is time to ditch containment. That would mean it is time for aggressive mitigation strategies. Yet their mitigation plan is woefully minimalistic, almost a joke." For instance, Eisen argued, telling the sick to stay home is "a weak guideline at best."
Tom Hopkins, a doctor in the city of Roseville, told ABC 10 there is there is no need to quarantine for 14 days as the virus is spreading in California. "What would you do if it was a bad flu season? What would happen," Hopkins asked. "We wouldn't be quarantining. It wouldn't exist. There's no difference
originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Sounds like they want it to spread. Hell, If you got it, stay your ass at home until it is gone. If you have been exposed to it, stay your ass at home until you can be cleared. How hard is that? Is that too much to ask?
Would be nice if we had the testing capability to actually find out if someone has it or not right?