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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
As Vers said in his OP part of the German education system now is mandatory indoctrination on how bad Germans and Germany was during WW2.
Germans have literally been programmed to accept that they are racist and that this is the worst possible thing a human could be. To not completely accept this or to question it in anyway is the biggest and baddest taboo that exists there.
It’s actually really sad
originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: verschickter
Your looking on only one aspect to try and explain the whole. You must look on the context of the people as a whole.
In the 1920s and 1930s Germany was in a very deep recession, people were suffering and in that context any, and I mean any, lifeline that would solve their problems would be grasped.
Hitler played these cards to gain support, through lies and distortions, but the majority went for it. Now when he got into power he wheedled more power till he had complete control. THEN he enacted his agenda and for the ordinary Germans it was too late to back away as then if you were caught dissenting you would suffer whatever they wanted to do with you. As what is already been said, you could not trust your own neighbour.
It's exactly the same mindset today with the majority of people of all countries "If in does not involve me personally I don't want to know"."Let someone else deal with it".
... people were suffering and in that context any, and I mean any, lifeline that would solve their problems would be grasped. Hitler played these cards to gain support, through lies and distortions, but the majority went for it.
originally posted by: crayzeed
Hitler played these cards to gain support, through lies and distortions, but the majority went for it. Now when he got into power he wheedled more power till he had complete control. THEN he enacted his agenda and for the ordinary Germans it was too late to back away as then if you were caught dissenting you would suffer whatever they wanted to do with you. As what is already been said, you could not trust your own neighbour.
It's exactly the same mindset today with the majority of people of all countries "If in does not involve me personally I don't want to know"."Let someone else deal with it".
originally posted by: crayzeed
Do not make such a trite comment comparing then and now. If you dissented in Germany in those days you actually got killed. It bears no resemblance to the EU or how anyone has suffered in the EU.
originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: Grimmley
Do you know awkward situations where you have answer to questions like:
"Why do you protect him/her now, I thought that you can´t stand the person".
and then you have to give an answer like:
"Because what you said about him/her is not true."
Then you get crazy looks like
"WTF, we know that but we hate him/her so who gives a # if it´s true/false/unjust (whatever)"
"Yeah, obviously, I do still care about the truth being told".
I really don´t get the fuss here, am I to Spock-like / logical with this?
And then you have to explain yourself why you won´t tolerate lies even on the one you despise. This was just an example and not an acutal conversation with friends but I hope you get the drift.
originally posted by: ManFromEurope
originally posted by: Fools
What is your opinion of Merkel flooding your nation with immigrants?
Interesting question, and although I do not think that it has much to do with Verschickter's topic (to which I could write on my own account, but it would come mostly to the same conclusion and events happening), I would like to try an answer:
Why do you care about this?
Does your perceived image of a Germany "flooded with immigrants" have any kind of impact on your own life? We deal with it, and its not a flood, thank you.
Do not listen to all the lies.
originally posted by: Fools
I mean it would be one thing if the best of other cultures were attracted to your culture, or say that Germany (or the USA for that matter) had vast lands that needed to be civilized, but that just is not the case anymore.