Some tips for gpu/cpu performance in online games.

Very recently I have had issues with a couple of mmos that I play. My problems started just after the new expansion of guild wars 2 (heart of thorns). I experienced very low fps and in level that the game was not playable!

Here is some videos from my youtube I recorded with the problem. As you can see, I used the lowest settings but the performance was like 2-10fps! The videos are up to 1080p.



also this



I tried everything, I format my pc, I reinstalled the games I was having issues, I tried to repair them but nothing. I also cleaned my pc (nothing). My pc didnt gave me any indication that is something is wrong with it! I was even running benchmarks and it was all fine!

Most of the mmos, use the cpu instead of the GPU to run, so whatever our gpu is (highest tir or mid range or low range card) it doesnt matter! The cpu does the job, so we must always target cpus with high single core performance!

So I decided to renew the cpu paste, because I had over a year to make that happen. And BOOM look the results because of the CPU paste!!



TIPS:

Before you even think about an upgrade, because after an expansion your PC slowed down, or fps issues. Check the following

1) virus/rogue malwares
2) dust / clean up your pc
3) format, repair of the game, reinstall
4) change the cpu paste!

If you are using Nvidia...Use this..

www.geforce.com...

a reply to: baddmove

I tried using that for Skyrim and found i still had to mess around quite a bit. Maybe it works better for newer games.

a reply to: Ploutonas

Looks like heat issues were the reason behind choppy performance. The cpu functionality changes as temperature increases, same with gpu's and memory chips. Heat causes artifacts and malfunctions. The voltages are tied directly to heat, and the stability is as well. An unstable voltage rail will cause stuttering or even shutdowns.

I am glad you have solved the problem!

Also you can try Leatrix lag fix.

A good software to monitor cpu temps is Core Temp. Link

or

If you want to see a lot more that's going on, these programs are nice.
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If you read it till the end, I fixed it by changing the cpu paste. Look at the last video. And for the records I have a gtx780

I added this info here, to help others who play MMO's because fps issues are everywhere.

originally posted by: baddmove
If you are using Nvidia...Use this..

www.geforce.com...

I have used that. I play Wartune. My housemate reformatted my comp- he is an IT specialist. It worked for maybe 2 days...back to lag city.

a reply to: Ploutonas

What Chadderson said.

It appears your CPU was heating up and lowering performance as a safeguard.

Most of the mmos, use the cpu instead of the GPU to run, so whatever our gpu is (highest tir or mid range or low range card) it doesnt matter!

Yeah that's not true, dude.

Yes, many are certainly CPU intensive. There are plenty of MMORPGs that you're not going to get away with say a great processor without also a dedicated GPU. On lowest settings, perhaps. Try playing a recent MMORPG with high settings without a dedicated GPU and see how it responds even though you have the CPU juice. It does matter.

a reply to: Lucid Lunacy

I played skyforge, it didnt gave me the feel of open world, quitted it, but my gpu strong enough, it run perfect at ultra settings.

Which mmos are gpu intensive?

WOW, SWTOR, GUILD WARS 2 are cpu intensive.

originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: Ploutonas

What Chadderson said.

It appears your CPU was heating up and lowering performance as a safeguard.

Most of the mmos, use the cpu instead of the GPU to run, so whatever our gpu is (highest tir or mid range or low range card) it doesnt matter!

Yeah that's not true, dude.

Yes, many are certainly CPU intensive. There are plenty of MMORPGs that you're not going to get away with say a great processor without also a dedicated GPU. On lowest settings, perhaps. Try playing a recent MMORPG with high settings without a dedicated GPU and see how it responds even though you have the CPU juice. It does matter.

This.
Definitely this.

I wouldn't be putting your "solution" out there for other people to follow - you're basically just asking them to waste their time and energy (and potentially money) following a bunch of steps to fix a problem that they may not even have.

Your CPU was clearly overheating, and thus scaling back its frequency (and thus performance).
In that instance, your CPU will always be the lowest performing element of your setup, and thus your bottleneck... so yes, solving the cooling issues will give you an increase in FPS. Such a step will NOT help someone who already has adequate cooling, so they're just going to be wasting their time.

At best, it'll be pointless.
At worst, you'll get someone who doesn't know what they're doing adding a massive layer of thermal paste, or bashing their heatsink into their CPU, or doing some other harm to their setup.

a reply to: Awen24

If people forget to renew the cooling paste once per year, this is a part of a sollution dont you think? Most of the times we lose performance. The truth is I forgot to change my cpu paste for over a year.

And what you suggest in your last paragraph, is to fear people to do it themselves. True they need some skills if they dont have it (unscrew the cooling, remove the cpu from the motherboard, clean both cpu and cooling from the old paste and add new one, the back to their place, someone from their family/friends could help them out. I know that some tips really heart some other people pockets...

But there is something's that people should be aware, before they visit someone and pay 100-200 bucks for it... And it actually costs 2 bucks and 5 minutes from our time. I personally assemble and disassemble my own things from the 90s.

For people who dont know what cpu paste is and how its done.. This is one of the many guides, but guides most of the times, suggest you the stuff they sale.. But you get the idea.



this is another guide



I would also suggest to search and ask others, before you buy your own thermal paste. Some of them are not good.