U.S. Air Force confirms Boeing’s electromagnetic pulse weapon

This is a category of weaponry called Directed Energy Weaponry, DEWS. The article linked below is a great explanation of them. It also gets into the use and development of Laser technology.

Unfortunately, it does have uses against humans, and affects us, though it is categorized as non-lethal weaponry. Nevertheless, that is depenedent upon its use, actually. It certainly could be lethal. To deniers, this article is highly scientific, and not science fiction or doom porn.

www.heritage.org...

A subset of HPM devices can affect the human body. Millimeter waveband energy can penetrate human skin to a very shallow depth, heating the tissue below. This produces a burning pain without actually damaging the tissue. The pain forces the person to flee the area. This type of weapon shows great potential as a riot-control device or area-denial system.[20]
The Active Denial System (ADS) is a nonlethal anti-personnel DEW that uses millimeter-wave­length beams to create a painful sensation in an individual without causing actual injury. It is rela­tively close to deployment. The system generates a focused beam of energy at the frequency of 95 giga­hertz. These waves penetrate only a few millimeters into the skin and cause the sensation of heat. The sensation increases in intensity until the affected individual moves out of the beam or it is shut off. There is no injury to the target individual.[21]
A demonstration system was tested at Kirtland Air Force Base in 2000. A year later, testing showed that the ADS could produce effects at ranges beyond current small-arms range. A prototype ADS system mounted on a Humvee went into testing in August 2005.[22]

a reply to: tetra50

An HPM is not an HPM is not an HPM. Yes there are systems that affect people but not all HPM systems will cause physical effects, and some will only cause minor physical effects. It depends on the power level and frequency.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: tetra50

An HPM is not an HPM is not an HPM. Yes there are systems that affect people but not all HPM systems will cause physical effects, and some will only cause minor physical effects. It depends on the power level and frequency.

And some can kill. What I quoted clearly says a "….subset of HPM weaponry…..can affect humans." Research clearly will tell you that it can also kill. Certainly, it can affect humans. Now it can also NOT affect humans, of course. But your statement that it cannot affect humans is false. Let's be clear, please.

I'm all for posting the positive angle of things, but disregarding the negative side seems to be just sp;reading propaganda denial stuff, and not accurate. Certainly, the bell cannot be unrung. We have this potential now, and it's likely it will be used. Some of us believe we've had potential like it for quite some time, and there is the research to back it up.

Thanks for replying.
tetra

a reply to: tetra50

Um, go reread what I said. I said SOME HPMs won't cause physical effects, not that it won't kill you or that they can't be used against people.

Certain frequencies will only penetrate a very shallow way into the skin and aren't going to leave any effects. Other frequencies are going to penetrate all the way into the body and cause internal damage. But both fall under the HPM category.

CHAMP won't affect humans. The pulses are short lived largely because it's passing overhead. Unless you have a pacemaker that it hits and fries you won't even know it went over.

speaking of microwaves....

here's vmad

Vehicle-Mounted Active Denial System (V-MADS)

a reply to: Zaphod58

I don't believe it. If HPM's were so great then I would have warm food right now instead of a chunk of frozen spaghetti in the middle of the plastic container.

HPM's meh....

a reply to: BASSPLYR

I find it amusing that for what all microwaves can do...and how dangerous they can be...

We use them to heat our food. Everyone has a microwave oven these days.

And most people think microwaves use some kind of radioactive/nuclear technology that can make things "glow". I have to just shake my head.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

I think you might be on to something there. I wonder if you can shield your sensitive bits from HPM attacks with frozen spaghetti?

a reply to: Sammamishman

You know that damned white van is out in front of my pad again. Gunna sew a bunch of frozen dinners to a pair of pants and jacket and put them on, walk out in front of the van and be like How you like me now!?!

I like the idea hope it has self destruct on the deployment version. Would make a interesting moab type system for the Deep and Dark targets!

Screams s0d you sam site!

RAB

geez, a few hundred bucks worth of copper wire strung and grounded around any electronics system and this "weapon" is useless.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: BASSPLYR

I find it amusing that for what all microwaves can do...and how dangerous they can be...

We use them to heat our food. Everyone has a microwave oven these days.

And most people think microwaves use some kind of radioactive/nuclear technology that can make things "glow". I have to just shake my head.

I recommend you and jimmy and all other said doubters actually read the article I linked. I think you're all kind of missing the point.

Microwaves were supplied to the general public, just so you would look at this style weaponry in this regard, and dismiss it, and laugh. Laugh at you want, and call me silly, but that's the truth. Then think how long microwaves have now been around, and realize the planning that was required if I am right, and then you will know how long this has been around, and how it may now be tailored to get around jimmyx's copper solution.
tetra

a reply to: tetra50

the microwave was a happy accident.

en.wikipedia.org...

One day while building magnetrons, Spencer was standing in front of an active radar set when he noticed the candy bar he had in his pocket had melted. Spencer was not the first to notice this phenomenon, but he was the first to investigate it. He decided to experiment using food, including popcorn kernels, which became the world’s first microwaved popcorn. In another experiment, an egg was placed in a tea kettle, and the magnetron was placed directly above it. The result was the egg exploding in the face of one of his co-workers, who was looking in the kettle to observe. Spencer then created the first true microwave oven by attaching a high density electromagnetic field generator to an enclosed metal box. The magnetron emitted microwaves into the metal box blocking any escape, allowing for controlled and safe experimentation. He then placed various food items in the box, while observing effects and monitoring temperatures.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Throw FIRECRACKERS around it.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

And deafen the guy wearing the earphones? I also plan to take my shirt off in front of the truck so that my high albedo blinds his opticals and maybe even his retinas.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: tetra50

the microwave was a happy accident.

en.wikipedia.org...

One day while building magnetrons, Spencer was standing in front of an active radar set when he noticed the candy bar he had in his pocket had melted. Spencer was not the first to notice this phenomenon, but he was the first to investigate it. He decided to experiment using food, including popcorn kernels, which became the world’s first microwaved popcorn. In another experiment, an egg was placed in a tea kettle, and the magnetron was placed directly above it. The result was the egg exploding in the face of one of his co-workers, who was looking in the kettle to observe. Spencer then created the first true microwave oven by attaching a high density electromagnetic field generator to an enclosed metal box. The magnetron emitted microwaves into the metal box blocking any escape, allowing for controlled and safe experimentation. He then placed various food items in the box, while observing effects and monitoring temperatures.

Hey there:
Interesting information, for sure, especially considering what I wrote that the tech (as weaponry) was known about and has been around for some time, first discovered according to your source of wiki in 1945, while the gentleman discovering it was working for Raytheon, a leading DOD contract defense company (fourth or fifth in the world.)

The Raytheon Company is a major American defense contractor and industrial corporation with core manufacturing concentrations in weapons and military and commercial electronics. It was previously involved in corporate and special-mission aircraft until early 2007. Raytheon is the world's largest producer of guided missiles.[5]

I also wrote this was planned, putting it affordably into our homes, as per your article, so that we would laugh at it when characterized as something dangerous to our mental and physical health, that can be used as a powerful tool or weapon against us…just as we've seen it dismissed in this thread, and held up the "ludicrousness" of it by comparing its efficiency as a weapon to the oven most of us have in our homes.
I also meant to indicate those who planned such a thing to nullify any real concerns were the military industrial complex, directly linked here to its discovery in 1945. This was an interesting time, in itself, for such a thing to be discovered.

The official story here may seem to be a happy accident. Perhaps it was, perhaps it didn't happen that way at all. Regardless, it doesn't negate me saying it was planned to put it in our homes in a seemingly harmless and useful thing, so that its dismissal as a weapon just this way would occur. In fact, much of the information from your wiki page seems to be supportive of my claim, rather than negating it.
Thanks,
tetra50

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: cavtrooper7

And deafen the guy wearing the earphones? I also plan to take my shirt off in front of the truck so that my high albedo blinds his opticals and maybe even his retinas.

A AIRHORN through a bullhorn. now THAT is loud enough to bust ear drums.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Couldn't you just wrap yourself up in aluminum foil?

a reply to: engineercutout

Then when they hit him with the microwave beam the emitter will explode when it hits the metal.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: BASSPLYR

I find it amusing that for what all microwaves can do...and how dangerous they can be...

We use them to heat our food. Everyone has a microwave oven these days.

And most people think microwaves use some kind of radioactive/nuclear technology that can make things "glow". I have to just shake my head.

Well it's not like it's transmuting the food into plutonium or something. Although, I remember hearing an argument years ago that the ionizing radiation that does the heating could cause the formation of molecules from the food that would cause it to no longer be considered food.