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originally posted by: JCG1231
So after many years of following this forum at ATS I have finally brought myself to participate! Needless to say I am excited after all these years of following these great threads and absorbing the ideas and knowledge of some of the great and well informed members who have made this such a wonderful platform for discussion and research. With that I just have a request. I find myself handing my phone or tablet to friends and classmates all the time to check out an awesome thread and inevitably they, and admittedly, sometimes myself, come across an acronym that we are clueless on. Perhaps using longhand once with abbreviation in parentheses before switching to acronyms? I do not intend to seem critical or too lazy to research, just sometimes the acronyms can have a plethora of meanings or simply not enough time to follow up. Anyways again. If this is the wrong place to bring this up I sincerely apologize. I look forward to more great information and again, I am excited and thankful to be here!
a reply to: penroc3
originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: penroc3
Why do dedicated military aircraft enthusiasts discuss the most obscure aspects of aircraft design and capabilities but never venture into similar discussions about the black triangles? Why wouldn't they want to theorize about those craft that seem to be powered by magical means and what terrific capabilities they must have with their manners of non-aerodynamic locomotion coupled with completely new possibilities in terms of arms, evasion, range, speed, and especially altitude ceiling (if any).
One explanation that comes to mind is that those craft are too much like the typical reports of UFOs and that a line has been drawn so that no connection can be allowed between Air Force equipment and UFOs. That isolation means that any discussion of past, present and future Air Force hardware must have wings and/or jet/rocket engines.
The real exotic stuff is left to another area, probably the providence of the US Space Force which is rarely the topic of discussion by anyone on this site except for those of us that see beyond the veil.
originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: Forensick
I wonder if the shadow was able to strike targets it's self, if not just to take ot radar or SAM sites.
originally posted by: murlock
a reply to: boomer135
Boomer, didn't you once post about refueling aircraft you had never seen before and haven't seen since?
I cant remember where it was but it did jog my memory seeing you post here
also as it says on your avatar N.K.A.W.T.G. Surely these supposed "black triangles" or Low RCS/Observability platforms still require mid air refueling due to the long loiter time that they can enjoy due to such systems on board.
That is if they are powered by conventional means/fuels of course.
Although I do agree with previous posts about conventional aircraft looking more and more like the reports we get of U.F.O's. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't believe what people talk about unless you have had to pass it fuel at some point due to your level of clearance that has allowed you to refuel some of the most rare and exotic airframes that the US has available (and probably cant mention).
Many thanks to people like you and Zaphod that help keep us all honest and down to earth on subjects such as these and others regarding exotic airframes currently employed/deployed.
Sorry if this post is a bit random and unorganized. I am quite an articulate person but don't really have the literal expertise to put my thoughts into a 100% legible post.
Regards,
M.
originally posted by: murlock
a reply to: penroc3
I agree with what you say, but I'm pretty sure that platforms like this are so deeply classified that you wouldn't be able to get any information from anyone here as they would be breaking so many laws to give that info out. Let alone getting a name and/or model number for them
I recall Zaphod chiming in on a recent strike made by the F-22 Raptor saying that it wasn't the raptor that was interesting about it. More the platform that had taken the target and bomb damage assessment photos
Regards,
M.