4th Ebola Victim in Dallas Texas???

originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: deadeyedick
i am a couple hrs from dallas and my mom was recently admitted for kidney stones and i can say that they definitly done there series of questions well. So things seem to be working. I also have a sister that is a trauma nurse in dallas and i have heard nothing negative from her. She was at the point of quitting if any more cases came up but she is still working at one of the adjacent er's to presbyterian. i will inquire more though...

There was a member on one of the other Ebola threads ( I can't remember which one, there are so many threads!) that said she was a nurse or knew someone who was a nurse and she had to sign a confidentiality agreement about keeping quiet. I will see if I can find it and post.

Maybe your sister isn't allowed to say anything?

Actually I have a golf buddy who is amrried to a dept head at a hospital in my area and I curiously asked him 2-3 weeks ago what his wife was saying about whats going on re: ebola and he have me a odd look and said he can't really say as she had to sign a disclosure agreement of some kind that make it very clear not to share info that happens at the hospital with anyone (in his case she wont even tell him anything). I assume knowing they are close that if she felt so compelled not say anything to him then whatever she signed must have seriously scared her. He is one of the most pragmatic honest guys I know so I have no reason not to believe it.

Based on the above and other stories I have no doubt our govt is and will keep health care staff from talking. They are already doing it with the media thanks to Czar Klein.

Personally its a matter of when and to what extent not if!

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: texasgirl



Perhaps not but i can say that i feel safe and have not heard of any rumors much less reports of more cases. They would not be able to keep things quite if things were at a level that we should be concerned. Sure i would bet money that one or two cases have been sealed but that does not pose much of a threat to us overall. I expected things to be in the numbers of thousands by now if this virus posed a real danger to the population. That does not mean i do not feel for anyone that gets caught up in some quite conspiracy but it seems like we will all be fine now. Even if we say the rumored reports are confirmed cases the numbers are still very low compared to what the possibilities were when this started. I do remember some rule of the cdc that allowed silence on thee matters until 3% of the population was infected. That is likely just false or interputed wrong but i think it is true to some extent.

It's not that I don't feel safe, but I am concerned that if something BIG were to hit (like SARS or smallpox) they would lie to the public and create a huge cover-up until it got bad enough they could no longer keep it hidden. Ebola seems easily contained because only a few cases have trickled in (that we know of, anyway) and it doesn't spread like a flu virus. But if a flu virus along the likes of the 1918 pandemic, we'd be in trouble if the government tried to hide it. China underreported the SARS cases and deaths until it could no longer do so. It turned out to be twice as bad as they said.

Governments lie. There's proof of that in Dallas with this virus and it was just a few cases. Their lying scares me.

originally posted by: sirlancelot

originally posted by: texasgirl

originally posted by: deadeyedick

i am a couple hrs from dallas and my mom was recently admitted for kidney stones and i can say that they definitly done there series of questions well. So things seem to be working. I also have a sister that is a trauma nurse in dallas and i have heard nothing negative from her. She was at the point of quitting if any more cases came up but she is still working at one of the adjacent er's to presbyterian. i will inquire more though...

There was a member on one of the other Ebola threads ( I can't remember which one, there are so many threads!) that said she was a nurse or knew someone who was a nurse and she had to sign a confidentiality agreement about keeping quiet. I will see if I can find it and post.



Maybe your sister isn't allowed to say anything?

Actually I have a golf buddy who is amrried to a dept head at a hospital in my area and I curiously asked him 2-3 weeks ago what his wife was saying about whats going on re: ebola and he have me a odd look and said he can't really say as she had to sign a disclosure agreement of some kind that make it very clear not to share info that happens at the hospital with anyone (in his case she wont even tell him anything). I assume knowing they are close that if she felt so compelled not say anything to him then whatever she signed must have seriously scared her. He is one of the most pragmatic honest guys I know so I have no reason not to believe it.



Based on the above and other stories I have no doubt our govt is and will keep health care staff from talking. They are already doing it with the media thanks to Czar Klein.



Personally its a matter of when and to what extent not if!

Sirlancelot,

It was you I referring to. Thank you for posting! I have been scouring the threads looking for this!

a reply to: texasgirl

Well yes it is just a matter of time before that happens. I am just glad it was not this time. However when it gets widespread enough to effect 3% of the population then it will also be to big to keep hidden cause it will get personal to us meaning the 6 degrees of seperation rule will kick in and everyone will know.

And you didn't join the discussion why? I would have

a reply to: Violater1

Well, if it turns out to be true and the CDC and Gov't have colluded with the MSM to keep it quiet, I for one, will be madder than hell...but not surprised. What the entire Ebola debacle has done is point up to the PTB the extent to which the US American populace will react in a manner that could well damage the economy. They're not going to let that happen, if they can, at all avoid it. Nothing trumps the economic interests of the retailers in the Holidays shopping spree. But with an Ebola outbreak, its plainly obvious that the public will stay home in droves.

Makes me feel like a Pirate!
Arrrrghhh!

a reply to: Violater1

No the treating team nor the CDC nor the government or WHO have the individual power to cover it up and there is no single line of communication and coordination between them to facilitate it even if they wanted to.
If you don mind me asking which hospital was it at?
I work in public health and if there was even a suspected EVD patient in my district of about 4 hospitals there would be 100+ health, public health and government officials that would be involved before the testing is even complete. And thats assuming we can keep it leaking to the media, as soon as they get hold our phones start ringing non stop.

a reply to: sirlancelot

Sorry i dont understand all healthcare workers are already bound by confidentiality as part of their employment contract, why would he sign anything in addition its not needed.
There is no mass cover up its simply not possible the amount of people who all have different reporting chains.
If there is an evd patient in a hospital then there is the treating team (pulled together from different departments), external specialist (not on the government payroll), advisory panel from different states (and in some cases countries) , ambulance (independent from hospital), lab (independent from hospital and in most cases private), transportation of specimen (private courier), CDC (independent from hospital), WHO (international and independent), public health (independent from hospital), infection control team (independent from treating team), environmental health (independent from hospital), hospital cleaning and waste management (independent from treating team), local and state waste and sewage (independent from hospital, cdc, who), police (independent from hospital), security (normally private contractors), local state and federal health networks and government (all report through different lines of communication). Im sure ive missed a few of the groups involved but there is 100s of people connected to 10000s of others that all become involved. That level of coordination doesnt exist, if it did then evd would have been stopped in its tracks back at the start of the year. If this sort of cover up is real and for whatever reason all these normal everyday people have decided that they all want to collude in order to cause harm then ebola is the least of your worries.

I guess it all just depends on how far HIPAA will protect patients' rights and privacy. We never found out who the third person treated at Emory was. We get very little information about Spencer. Perhaps after seeing what happened to others who were infected, now they were talked about and how their privacy was intruded upon and personal details discussed by everyone with the google skill, they may be choosing to not disclose. Not everyone is a big mouth like whiny nurse and not everyone wants to be in the spotlight either. Just another point of view on all this.

ETA: This may be a good protection when you think about it...even with ebola. People are more likely to come forward about who they contacted and where they were if they have a guarantee of privacy. Just as with so many STDs and other diseases.

You guys are forgetting that all they have do do is use codewords. I for one dont believe anything we are told...

I just saw on the news this morning that two healthcare workers returning from W.Africa are being monitored in Dallas. They've been asked to stay off public transportation and not attend any athletic events. Judge Jenkins explained that it would be too difficult to trace contacts if they got sick at a game, train, etc...

Of course, this came right after Jenkins and Mayor Rawlins were celebrating Dallas as being 'Ebola-free!'

Here's a link:

www.wfaa.com...


They returned from Sierra Leone, a country that is seeing an increase in Ebola cases.

In 2002 I think it was, I had a temp of 107. YES< it WAS that high. I am pretty sure I have suffered some brain damage from it as well, but continuing on....

they never TOLD me what I had. That is the best way to keep it quiet. They just asked me if I had been to africa, or around anyone who just got back from africa, and then they sent me home with 2 giant baby blue colored horse pills. I was in bed for almost 4 months, barley remember it, a friend came and fed me and made me use the bathroom and bathe etc that whole time, and then my life has never been the same since.

They never actually told me what it was. They just ushered me out of there as fast as humanly possible, and well, they still seem to do the same thing, if I go to the ER for any reason, they look at me in horror and rush me home. I don't really get sick any more though, but I am still curious if it was Ebola back then, and if I would be immune now.

originally posted by: hidingthistime
In 2002 I think it was, I had a temp of 107. YES< it WAS that high. I am pretty sure I have suffered some brain damage from it as well, but continuing on....

they never TOLD me what I had. That is the best way to keep it quiet. They just asked me if I had been to africa, or around anyone who just got back from africa, and then they sent me home with 2 giant baby blue colored horse pills. I was in bed for almost 4 months, barley remember it, a friend came and fed me and made me use the bathroom and bathe etc that whole time, and then my life has never been the same since.

They never actually told me what it was. They just ushered me out of there as fast as humanly possible, and well, they still seem to do the same thing, if I go to the ER for any reason, they look at me in horror and rush me home. I don't really get sick any more though, but I am still curious if it was Ebola back then, and if I would be immune now.

WOW
That High of a temp you should have been admitted.
Where was the hospital?

And yes, Ebola was around in 2002.

That is a very fascinating post you made-do you think,if you had the funds for it,you could have blood and dna tests done,by a private independent lab? I would be curious as hell to know what it was ,that I had back in the day.I'm not very clued-up on medical science,so idk if at this stage testing would reveal anything,but I know if I were you it would bug me no end.

Thing is,I doubt it was ebola,because they would've known,that to usher you out of the hospital+send you on your merry way home,would be to potentially unleash a chain of contagion on everyone you came in contact with,their families,people They came into contact with etc etc etc-i doubt medical professionals would be That stupid.Well the Duncan case was facepalm central,but I mean,surely they would not have released you,in fact hurriedly sent you away,if they suspected ebola? Which begs the question,what Did you have.To Still cause looks of horror when you go to the ER,and a seeming discomfort from the staff in having you there?

I have to say,I am intensely curious about this matter.a reply to: hidingthistime

a reply to: Violater1

It was in a major city. and YES the lady who took me there, and I were both in shock that they made me leave. I was in a pain like never before, it felt like every bone in my body was shattered.

a reply to: Raxoxane

I wish I knew as well, I think I have a right to know actually, I also feel terrified of the fact that, well, what if they thought I would just go home and die or something???

WHAT were the 2 light blue HUGE pills they gave me? Why only 2? Why no antibiotics or prescription of any kind etc?

originally posted by: hidingthistime
a reply to: Raxoxane

I wish I knew as well, I think I have a right to know actually, I also feel terrified of the fact that, well, what if they thought I would just go home and die or something???

WHAT were the 2 light blue HUGE pills they gave me? Why only 2? Why no antibiotics or prescription of any kind etc?

Was it Truvada from Gilead?

Well this explains some of Louise's silence...

NEW YORK (AP) - The fiancee of Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan has a book deal.

Louise Troh’s memoir is scheduled for April 28, to be published jointly by The Weinstein Company and The Perseus Book Group. Weinstein tells The Associated Press the book currently is untitled.

source

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: hidingthistime
a reply to: Raxoxane

I wish I knew as well, I think I have a right to know actually, I also feel terrified of the fact that, well, what if they thought I would just go home and die or something???

WHAT were the 2 light blue HUGE pills they gave me? Why only 2? Why no antibiotics or prescription of any kind etc?

Was it Truvada from Gilead?

I can't be totally sure as it was 12 years ago and I was right out of it, but that DOES look just like it in my mind? Are they sugar pills or something strange like that.....like why only 2? It baffles me, I have to go google it now, thanks!

Edit to add: Now that I have read about it and seen the scale/size.... I have to admit I am pretty sure it was actually a bit bigger than that, and slightly a football shape? not an exact football shape, but not quite as perfectly lined up as that pill, if that makes sense?




Edit again.... sorry, lol
I bet it was THIS one, because I was in SOOOOO much pain! www.drugs.com...