Why Scotland said "Yes" to Independence - Quite interesting interpretation of Referendum

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: unity100
you say 'deceit'. do you mean westminster saying they wont privatize nhs despite they have ALREADY been privatizing it?

Show me policy on the privatisation of the NHS, given that the vast majority of GPs have been private operators since before the NHS was formed.

Regards

All the references are in the article mate. dont you think its lazy to just shell out arguments without reading anything.

no one is obligated to entertain those who debate without reading.

originally posted by: skalla

originally posted by: unity100

originally posted by: skalla

originally posted by: unity100

originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: unity100

Any article that states that "Scotland is in the middle of Europe" needs slapping around the head several times.

huh?

i dont think what the article says GEOGRAPHICAL center.

it seems that it pertains to the potential of some country attacking scotland. which is really absurd and stupid. for in that regard its really in the middle of scotland.

It says "in the middle of Europe" very clearly and the implication is also clear.

you dont make sense at all.

and you say

huh?

i dont think what the article says GEOGRAPHICAL center.

it seems that it pertains to the potential of some country attacking scotland. which is really absurd and stupid. for in that regard its really in the middle of scotland.

so Scotland is in the middle of Scotland. Who doesn't make sense?

the article states:

Imagine that they tell you that someone would come and attack your country – which is in the middle of Europe – if you voted for independence.

Which implies that a geographical location "in the middle of Europe" makes it less susceptible to invasion. Scotland is clearly in Northern Europe. Please attempt to argue otherwise.

originally posted by: skallaSome of the sources are very dubious too, eg The Sun newspaper which is toilet paper, and the SNP website which is hardly balanced itself. Other points do hold water, but the blog itself is pretty much tripe IMO.

you pick 2 references, you call dubious....... the other 10+ references go unaddressed.

If i quoted the Tory party in favour of a no vote i would be rightly accused of bias. Goes both ways and the SNP have as much bias as the Tories. The Sun is of course a rag and i'll happily attack it, you fail to acknowledge that i say other points in the blog do infact hold water but then you show confirmation bias. For the record i'm half Scottish and from a Gaelic speaking family, i would have been fine with a yes vote ( though i would miss the Union as it stood) and would have qualified for a Scottish Passport i assume, seeing as i qualify to compete for Scotland in footie, athletics etc.

leaving aside the fact that all of the news that were referenced there were made news by multiple media outlets all at the same time and anyone who actually followed the referendum would know that.

SNP website, by the way? Whats 'unbalanced' about statistics......

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. Also 87.3% of all statistics are made up and can be made to fit most outcomes in isolation as the various contradictory positions in this referendum, all backed up by statistics went to show.

originally posted by: skalla
If Scotland were to be independent then it's fair to suggest that England's northern borders would be weaker. It ain't necessarily so, but there is a strong argument there given the massive amount of Coast line Scotland would have to guard while also paying for all their social programmes and a newly established Northern English land border.

surely, a massive invasion by japanese or russians ...... or maybe even aliens * gasp * would be in order....

Yes, you are right. England has never been subject to terrorist attacks so why would they wish to limit the opportunities for people to smuggle arms, explosives, restricted individuals and such into the country. We also welcome the opportunity for more illegal immigrants to skip over into Northumbria in addition to our southern ports, and would love to see more heroin imported from places such as Oban and Aberdeen.

You really did not think this through.

excuse me pal, im going to skip by your arguments. it seems you are not only trying to invalidate dozens of arguments and references by merely picking on one newspaper, but also repeating yourself. not so productive to discuss.

'terrorist attacks' is so 2001.

and the best way to avoid them is to stop FUNDING them, along with these psychos below.

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a reply to: DrunkYogi

I appreciate the response. It sounds like it is still a very contentious issue.

Aaand voila :

"Better Together Campaign Chief: We Would Have Struggled To Win Without Scaremongering
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The balls these guys have - how he says they couldnt win, that carefree - astounding.