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originally posted by: DeepImpactX
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
How do we truly and effectively counter the power and reach of mass media if it has become propaganda? This is a critical question for any kind of activist.
First of all, don't try to do it on their turf. Quit thinking that posting on their sites will make a difference. Their house, their rules and they can delete anyone they want.
Secondly, it's going to take time. It took time for things to get this point, so it's going to take time to turn this ship around.
Sorry, but that's all I got. Just build up a counter method to their method somehow to where your method seems more legitimate to the public.
As much as I love ATS I have to say it's a tool of TPTB. Sites like this exist to gauge the opinions of those willing to speak of such things.
originally posted by: BettyHill400
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
OP you are not the only one who noticed this.
I've noticed for a long time censoring of anything anti mainstream pushed.
While shills and trolls for the government are protected.
originally posted by: learnatic
originally posted by: DeepImpactX
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
How do we truly and effectively counter the power and reach of mass media if it has become propaganda? This is a critical question for any kind of activist.
First of all, don't try to do it on their turf. Quit thinking that posting on their sites will make a difference. Their house, their rules and they can delete anyone they want.
Secondly, it's going to take time. It took time for things to get this point, so it's going to take time to turn this ship around.
Sorry, but that's all I got. Just build up a counter method to their method somehow to where your method seems more legitimate to the public.
spot on mate. I think one of the things we also have to do is try not to sound to alarmist, too radical. we must learn the art of dip-o-speak like politicans do.
originally posted by: learnatic
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
well written and well said mate, thanks for your work.
'Banned From CNN' club.
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: Fylgje
'Banned From CNN' club.
CNN Banned me for my views on Syria during the protests 2011 and for my views on the Balkans.
-No insults were ever posted in any of my comments that i posted.
-Several of my comments had the most up votes.
-I was always rebated by a user calling themselves BearClinton whom kept defending everything.
originally posted by: TheLaughingGod
Can't say about the US, I'm positive it's happening, sockpuppets and all that, this type of tactic goes on in Sweden too, media will censor anyone that's not toting the multicultural Marxistic spiel. These last years they have pretty much all shut down their comments section if related to immigration and such. Only one opinion is valid and they'll be tolerant until you deviate from the state and media sponsored worldview and ideology.
If they can keep up the view to the public that it is only a tiny minority that disagrees with the official narrative people will be less likely to speak up.
This will be a rude awakening for the majority of people, they'll be waking up one morning realizing they're caged in and wondering what ever happened.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
How do we truly and effectively counter the power and reach of mass media if it has become propaganda? This is a critical question for any kind of activist.
originally posted by: Petros312
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
How do we truly and effectively counter the power and reach of mass media if it has become propaganda? This is a critical question for any kind of activist.
First post for me here on the forum.
Let me say this: I have not watched on-air TV stations or subscriber TV or cable TV for more than 5 years now. I only find slight amusement in reality shows like Survivor and The Amazing Race (and both incidentally have sponsors using embedded advertising). In March of 2003, post-Operation Shock and Awe, I found the TV propaganda to be so high I stopped watching the news because it was sickening. At the time, I was living where FOX News was a hit because of the military bases in town. Every newscast was filled with interviews of the public supporting the war. Two stand out in my mind the most, 1) a senior in a diner saying basically, "We've got to get these terrorists before they come here and get us" (typical Bush administration brainwashing), and 2) a young group of elementary ed students singing God Bless America "for the troops." Now, I realize this may sound like I don't support the US military servicemen and women, but it's not true. I don't support war, especially when it has little to do with the actual defense of the country. I can just imagine with this ISIS crisis going on the kind of manufactured reality FOX News and the others are spinning for the public. They'll induce anxiety, encourage hatred and blind patriotism, and do it through sheer lies and misinformation.
So then, to answer the question, "How do we truly and effectively counter the power and reach of mass media if it has become propaganda?" I think more people should stop watching TV. If this sounds extremist to you, consider that if you like certain shows you can often find them on the Internet without commercials. I haven't seen a car commercial in 5 years; no pharmaceutical company's nonsense about some fake magic bullet that doesn't actually work or causes another illness; no McDonald's pitch to the lower middle class to somehow eat junk and still smile; and most importantly, no news shows. I get my news through the Internet from multiple sources, and I avoid video newscasts.
If you can eliminate people watching TV by steering them to the Internet, which has by far more choices (almost endless), it takes care of one important source of propaganda and misinformation put out there by top corporations representing that .1% of the wealthiest who don't deserve to be the authority. Of course, major networks are out on the Internet too, but they are competing with far more content than what's available on TV stations.
I hope that's not too harsh for this forum.
Regarding CNN, I've been able to comment without deletions, but there's too many blockheads posting hatred there now to make it worthwhile. Try posting comments for news articles at the NY Times or Reuters and you'll see better results.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
I disagree with you however that a realistic solution requires a majority of people unplugging. Yes, if they did this would be a major intervention or change. But, it is highly doubtful that it will occur, even if we wish it would happen. Hence, back to square one: how do aware people counter the power and reach of the mass media?
If they had their way they'd do away with the internet and go back to one way media dissemination of information.
The Axis of Evil sites will become so slow that the majority of the heard won't even consider grazing at it.