The 40 000 year old Sphinx

originally posted by: greyer
The only reason why the mainstream magazines and history books do not say that the sphinx is 12,000 years old is because they say there was no other people around 12,000 years ago who could have built it.

There were several cultures in the Nile valley during that time frame with the Halfan culture being your best bet for having sites near Gizah however none were using stone in that way that was necessary to built something like the Sphinx, as Harte as noted the stones around Sphinx were cut out for use in building a very Egyptian style building and not rubble. While it is possible that the stones were reused their is no evidence for that contention.

Then Gobekli Tepe was found. Gobekli Tepe is the site which forces everybody to rethink Easter Island and Tiahuanaco.

While GT is important it has zero effect on Rapa Nui as there is a different of many thousands of years between the two cultures, nor Tiwanaku either. What rethinking do you think has occurred?

Then we look at all the underwater ruins and historical evidence. It is simply true and these people are talking to us but people have to be smart in order to understand it.

They probably didn't leave us messages but we can ascertain certain bits of information from their remains

That is why the flood was obviously true because we have plenty of underwater evidence.

Nope, no Biblical flood just rising sea levels and depending on what evidence you are referring to (as much of its is not real), perhaps you could clarify?

12,000 years ago there were lakes in the Sahara because of the ice age, there was a ton of ice across northern America and Europe. This age started building around 125,000 thousand years ago and it peaked around 21,000 years ago. This is obviously not peaking in the middle of it's existence so you can picture all of that ice melting, it's incredible.

Sorry Greyer not sure what your point is here, yes the climate was wetter and the Sahara has sufficient rainfall to form rivers and had lakes - not AFAIK is this related to ice melt, except perhaps near the Atlas mountains.

originally posted by: greyer
The only reason why the mainstream magazines and history books do not say that the sphinx is 12,000 years old is because they say there was no other people around 12,000 years ago who could have built it.

Well, that and the fact that there is no evidence for the sphinx of Egypt being that old.

Now, do you mind staying on topic? This thread is not about the Egyptian sphinx.

Harte

originally posted by: Hanslune
There were several cultures in the Nile valley during that time frame with the Halfan culture being your best bet for having sites near Gizah however none were using stone in that way that was necessary to built something like the Sphinx, as Harte as noted the stones around Sphinx were cut out for use in building a very Egyptian style building and not rubble. While it is possible that the stones were reused their is no evidence for that contention.

Hey thanks for the info. There are some things that are different. One of the big debates is why there are no Egyptian style writings in the pyramids, on the Sphinx, or anywhere on the temple by the sphinx. The style and architecture and design are vastly different - the ancient Egyptians being very colorful and extravagant, the lost civilization being very simple, mathematical, and of course overall size. The building stones for the temple by the sphinx were 120 tons, you cannot point out to any ancient Egyptian building that consisted of 120 ton stones unless it is one of the places were are discussing, but you can find it at Gobekli Tepe, which you cannot argue is 12,000 years old, we long ago at the end of the last ice age. The site was close to where Noah's Ark landed, and it is a depiction of all the animals of earth, that is why it is so significant.

While GT is important it has zero effect on Rapa Nui as there is a different of many thousands of years between the two cultures, nor Tiwanaku either. What rethinking do you think has occurred?

In reality these things are not completely clear in today's archaeology and there are many educated people arguing about what is true. We have physical evidence be it that long ago which proves that the Sumerians had contact with Tiahuanaco. These people 100 years ago or whenever it may be who decided to tell the world about what they calculated with Easter Island and Tiahuanaco are not super intelligent - they were not always right, they were even stubborn men some of them, believing that everything outside of their box was pagan and should be burned in a fire - which is exactly what they did with the alien looking written language of Easter Island. You are standing up for them, and I am standing up for the new thinkers at the end of the 20th century. The fact that we have physical evidence which proves that Sumerians had contact with Tiahuanaco is enough for me, also what they found "Atlantis" in the ocean there off the coast of the same continent. It was probably a port because the lost civilization of Atlantis were established in a grid across the earth aligned with the stars.

geologists in Brazil have now added their claims to speculation over the precise location of the mysterious land mass, mentioned first by Plato. Working with scientists from Japan, experts believe they have found evidence of a continent that disappeared after Africa and South America separated, 900 miles from the coast of Rio de Janeiro.

Nope, no Biblical flood just rising sea levels and depending on what evidence you are referring to (as much of its is not real), perhaps you could clarify?

The evidence is overwhelming and we are going over it, it is within Gobekli Tepe, Tiahuanaco, Easter Island, Yonaguni, Dwarka, Bimini, and Baalbek. Baalbek had 1,000 ton stones, the most giant ever found to be quaried and cut. It is absolutely astounding that they can drill into many ton stones and make such cuts in the stone, only a modern day computers can do that - it cannot be done alone be the human hand!



Sorry Greyer not sure what your point is here

I don't know what your point is either, but my points provide an explanation as to why people are discovering a lost civilization.

originally posted by: Harte

Now, do you mind staying on topic? This thread is not about the Egyptian sphinx.

Harte

I am talking about how the Sumerians connected to the lost civilization who would be the ones to make the 40 000 year old Sphinx, don't try to deny it.

originally posted by: greyer


I am talking about how the Sumerians connected to the lost civilization who would be the ones to make the 40 000 year old Sphinx, don't try to deny it.

Interesting how you left out of your quote the reference to a 12,000 year old Egyptian sphinx and are now attempting to link Bronze Age Mesopotamian culture with European Aurignacian culture which is seperated by tens of thousands of years.

How exactly does an Egyptian megalithic piece figure into a small hand carved figure that has no demonstrable link to one another?

a reply to: Skyfloating

Looks like a regular lion or maybe a bear. There were lions in Europe at that time I believe.

If a person would sculpture an animal from mammoth ivory it makes sense that the figure follows the dimensions of the material. So your don't have to make it from several pieces. Like if you're carving a dog from an elephants tusk, either you make it so small that you can make it stand on it's 4 feet, or you make it big but have to have it stand on its hind legs. In this case the later.

Probably made to give their hunters good luck.

But but..you never know though.

a reply to: Skyfloating

Looks like rock formations to me.

Besides, everyone knows for a FACT that the earth is only 6000 years old. Give or take.

(... and before you all begin directing the flame throwers at me, the two lines above is what is known as "irony", intended to debunk the so-called debunkers whose posts for whatever reason always seem to pass through the filter of what is acceptable.)

a reply to: greyer

We seemed to have gone off topic, if you'd like to discuss this tangent I be glad to do so in another thread

a reply to: peter vlar

Atlanteans, not Egyptians. The lost civilization who came from the stars and were labeled as gods and giants (the ETS still existed on earth 1,000s of years ago, what we see are UFOs and abductions now, but civilization was at such a point more than 3,000 years ago that aliens found it beneficial for them to make contact) were around since the Kings list of Sumer.

And to get back on topic, the fact that I believe the Sphinx of Egypt was not built by ancient Egyptians but much before that civilization adds evidence to the 40,000 year old sphinx figurine. Gobekli Tepe proves to us that this culture was skilled and crafted, and it doesn't tell us how far back it goes, it just tells us that it goes much farther than anybody had assumed.

a reply to: Skyfloating


Perhaps Serabit el-Khadim Sphinx might give some clues to the origin of the sphinx.

"The sphinx appears to be a votive to the Hathor, the goddess associated with turquoise."....
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Serabit el-Khadim Sphinx